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High Trough Level?

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#1

Hey guys.

So I take 50mg Test E 2x per week
(Monday morning & Thursday evening)

As you can tell this is a low dose, but I got my trough level back today and it is 1100.

SHGB was 24
E2 was very low, I take 12.5mg aromasin once per week, I take it on a Wednesday and my bloods were taken Thursday morning, not sure if this would cause it to be lower than other times of the week?
It seems I need to stop the AI, I’m quite lean so could be why.

My question is, I feel great at 100mg per week but with my trough level being so high do I need to lower my dose?
Surely my peaks must be high?
I’m 4 months into TRT btw.

My hematocrit is fine too.

#2

I would not lower you said you feel great. Perhaps consider lowering it if you need to control your e2 after stopping the AI.

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#3

What is very low? Drop AI.

#4

After a single dose, the maximal suppression of circulating estrogens occurs two to three days after dosing and persists for four to five days.

#5

@highpull are you saying testosterone peaks after 2 days.

Also when do you thing e2 peaks after an injection?

#6

Thanks, sounds good!

#7

21pmol/l UK lab reading, I think converted for the 25pg/ml sweet spot people talk about on here works out at 90pmol/L

So 21 is ridiculously low

#8

Ok, I guess that means I was even lower after the test then, dam! That can’t be healthy lol

#9

No, that was regarding the effect of aromasin on estrogen. Which, in his case, taking his aromasin within a day of labs, would mean E2 would drop even lower over the next couple of days.

As for when E2 peaks after an injection, I think it would be highest when testosterone is at its peak, within the first day, but I am not sure. Probably varies with the individual.

#10

21 pmol/L converts to 5.7 pg/mL

#11

Yep, aromasin is rough stuff.

#12

Yikes.
The weird thing is, I don’t feel bad, I don’t have the usual E2 crash feeling.
I feel generally good.
My face tends to go a little puffy when E2 raises so I tend to take the aromasin but now I’m thinking low E2 can cause bloat too

#13

How long do you think until I’m back at healthy levels? 1 week maybe?

#14

It is weird, but I think you also need to consider the long term and that means bone and cardiovascular health.

You should see E2 up in a week or two.

#15

That’s very true, and the most important aspect.
Thanks for your help

#16

Do you think taking some extra HCG will speed it up as it converts to E2 without aromase?

#17

I would stop the AI and don’t try to do anything that will affect E2. Let your body stabilize that on its own for a while and see how you feel. If your levels are out of whack after 6 weeks or so, then revisit the idea of controlling E2. What you’re doing now is obviously bring your E way too low.

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#18

Maybe, but in some guys it can take several weeks for hCG to have that effect and some don’t see it at all.