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High Dose Test w/ First HGH Run

i am currently running 2grams of test ethanate weekly, with 10iu hgh a day

a little cycle history without all the ancillaries which should be obvious to those who researched
also i have been on a minimum 500mg test as a cruise since beginning

1st cycle
test cypionate 500mg ended with 750 as i handled sides very well at 8 weeks moved to 750 at 8th-16thweek
great gains great strength great sex drive, loved it put on 30 pounds with a ton of bloat and some fat (5000-6000calories day)

2nd cycle 6 week
test ethatnate 500mg
tren ethanate 500mg
great strength holy moly when tren kicked in i finally knew the meaning of vascularity handled tern very well.
somewhat moody, extra anxiety, stopped do to very harsh back pumps that hurt my training at 6 week mark.

3rd cycle 7 weeks is what i lasted also worked up to these doses slowly
test ethanate 1gram
tren ethanate 1gram
strength was insane, and i stayed away from good mornings back extensions as i learned from pervious cycle
strength redicoulous recovery redicoulous, sides redicoulous…anxiety, serious insomnia could sleep for shit
loss of appetite, still nothing major or unbearable until week 7 when i decided i was tired of moodiness.

4th cycle
test ethanate 1.5grams a week for 8 weeks
dbol 30-50mg 6weeks
wow dbol strength gains blew anything ever tiried out of the water plus good feeling good joints good pumps
good appetite for gains, gyno became very hard to control so i stopped dbol at 6 weeks

5th cycle
test ethanate 3oomg TRT dose
tren e 1gram a week
mast e 1gram a week
winny 50mg a day for 3 weeks until joints hurt so had to quit
dbol at last 4-6 weeks

best cycle to date, when on winny sex drive became almost unbearable, strength gains were insane, just insane
had to stop winny because of joints, but it defiantly helped as i slowed some muscle and strength wise once i stopped
tren was much more bearable with low dose test. i was able to run the full 12 weeks no problems people who have tough time
with trine should try lowering test. Overall awesome cycle took 5inches off my waist with alittle weight gain.
best cycle by far mixing in lots of compounds, mast is very UNDERRATED it defiantly added on to what tren was doing.
mast will harden you up, and add strength regardless of bodyfat, not to degree of lets say tren in strength, but…
its very complimentary to the stack i used
same goes for winny which is personally stronger than mast IMO, but joints OUCH! cant do it as i am a powerlifter.
got strong and lean good 5%drop in bodyfat and 2 pants sizes while gaining 5 pounds on this cycle

6th cycle
my current cycle first run at hgh going to run it high 5-10iu a day as i have not seen many people run hgh at 10iu for “fear of sides” and what not
personally i can afford it and would like to start this thread and log in regards to how hgh works in these dose ranges,and help people know
what to expect from hgh
i have reached a point of some deminishing returns in aas use, and will see if hgh can bring me over the top with just simple high dose test
test 2 grams a week i plan to run at least 8 weks
hgh 5-10iu a day
currently 280 pounds 13 percent bodyfat
plan on switching back to tren mast combo sometime within the near future with hgh, or maybe equipoise, or deca which i haven’t tried
not really sure what that could do on top of what ive already tried which seems to be working fantastic.

I am not condoning beginners using these dosages and all of the above i have worked my way up to very slowly and built a tolerance
to tren, and test, i also am one of the few lucky ones if you call it that, that can handle high dosage aas very well, but again takes time
to build up the tolerance.

feel free to ask any questions, and ROCK ON TNATION here i come!

keep us updated. Ill be following this.

WEEK 1

now that i have time to post after the long intial post heres whats going on so far

so far its been one week on 10iu hgh test already been in my system for 4 weeks.

im new to growth hormone but heres first thing i noticed
nothing until day 4 when i became very very sleep all the time, seriously sleeping a good 10 hours a day with naps added in for that total
it is very hard to get out of bed, but once i do man do i feel refreshed havent slept like this since my teens. The sleep feels so good i dont want to get out of bed, this has bugged the g/f a bit.

other thing i noticed after 5-6 days is my hunger, WOW i can literally eat all day long if i want, first day hunger hit i took in 7000 calories

after one week i have much fuller muscle bellys, strength is up some due to bloat im sure, which explains my 6 pounds weight gain.
better mood, better sleep, but somewhat sluggish, for somebody with insomia i feel like i can nap anytime. skin looks alittle different almost shinier in complexion. my ability to obtain more calories and eat more is gonna be HUGE towards my gains, as well as the added sleep quality as it was shit when i started this cycle with mega dose test. the most drastic change is my work capacity which could also be indirectly from my increased carb/food intake.

so far so good, no carpal tunnel yet, but lets not jinyx it. Week 1 down so far so good reminds me of tren except minus moody appetite loss.

DAY 9
7 pounds up since start of hgh, all water, my muscles are noticable fuller, and harder, also work capacity( as we powerlifters call it) is up significantly. Not near as out of breathe, took a day off hgh due to sleepiness and drowieness is down significantly.

currently look like a michel man packed with veins, looks like someone pumped my muscles up with a tire pump.
to early to tell, test seems like returns are dimishing compared to sides at 2 grams a week, i will give it a couple more weeks to give it the test of time. if i dont get any better out of the test standalone as the aas i combine with hgh in next couple of weeks, i will lower, and throw in NPP at a gram a week for extra joint relief, as well as anabolic effect.

as for now im going to finish my burger, french toast sticks, and hashrounds for breakfast, and get a solid upper body workout in today.
GET HUGE TNATION!

Very good workout, most volume and intensity ive ever hit.
nearly recovered in 24 hours, going to workout lower body this afternoon
diet is at 6000+ everyday no exceptions not
trying to be mega clean as i cant get enough calories to bulk that way
muscles are so packed with fuel its incredible.
joints pain is down considerably more than normal considering volume my joints are enduring
litterally tossing the wrist wraps at this point as not nessasary.

tingliness started in my wrst just a tad last night, possible CTS

I’m curious as to the duration over which you escalated your dosages from Cycle 1 to Cycle 5? I see the durations of each were relatively short, but was this over something like 2-3 years? or more aggressive than that?

Good luck with the HGH, I’ll be trying that in the not so distant future.

[quote]dom_hollow wrote:
I’m curious as to the duration over which you escalated your dosages from Cycle 1 to Cycle 5? I see the durations of each were relatively short, but was this over something like 2-3 years? or more aggressive than that?

Good luck with the HGH, I’ll be trying that in the not so distant future.[/quote]

Ive been on somewhere in the 1.5-2 year range
i have worked up doses slowly, and cruised on 500mg-1000mg test weekly in off time so vie never been off,
never really thought coming off was an option, as im a competitive powerlifter, and losing my gains in strength just to get them back isn’t an option for me, so i stay on and make steady gains(cruise 500-1000mg test) then come closer to a meet, i do a blast with(more test, or other compounds especially trenbolone) i use trenbolone for about 12 weeks at a time leading up to competition, although i may attempt a bit longer.

As far as sides, work the dose up gradually, and you will adapt trust me, why do i feel fine, and “normal” on 2+grams of test a week?
because my body has adapted, not saying every adaptation ( high RBC count, which i do have as well as hematocrit, and hemoglobin)

Best thing i learned is “LISTEN” to your body, if you just feel like shit, which i don’t then you should probaly lower dosage till you adapt
some people may never be able to handle my dosage, but your talking someone who exhausted nearly a decade of training, properly dieting for strength and mass, and got everything down. I notice guys who jump to quick to AAS always max out potential sooner than my very experienced friends who waited till they exhausted every resource possible.

I can defiantly say 2+grams isn’t much improvement at all to 1.5grams or 1 gram even. 1 gram is a dose i could take year round with no sides, and all the benefits. throwing in DBOL in with a gram of test blew 2grams of test out of the water, so did adding WINNY to test, same scenario.

hope this helps.

a powerlifting protocal i plan on using before my next meet

low dose test 200-300mg a week
trenbolone 1gram a week
masterone 1 gram a week
anadrol 100mg a day
dbol 50mg a day
all this starts 10 weeks out except droll and anadrol those run 4 weeks prior, and man are they synergetic
recovery from trianing on this cycle is beyond what should really be capable for a human being.

this cycle is for a very experience AAS user, who has tried each of the above on their own, and together before, and knows every compound in and out, and which one to back off on if sides are present, its also a cycle you will feel pretty shitty on, during the last 4 weeks.

[quote]jasonneel wrote:
a powerlifting protocal i plan on using before my next meet

low dose test 200-300mg a week
trenbolone 1gram a week
masterone 1 gram a week
anadrol 100mg a day
dbol 50mg a day
all this starts 10 weeks out except droll and anadrol those run 4 weeks prior, and man are they synergetic
recovery from trianing on this cycle is beyond what should really be capable for a human being.

this cycle is for a very experience AAS user, who has tried each of the above on their own, and together before, and knows every compound in and out, and which one to back off on if sides are present, its also a cycle you will feel pretty shitty on, during the last 4 weeks.

[/quote]

also if for SHW test could be jacked up big time, and take out TREN AND MAST
I personally found masterone to work very well, ON TOP OF TREN, defiantly worth the money, not to mention hardening physique.
I was able to run DBOL with very little armidex 1mg a week compared to running without MAST 3-4mg a week
Mast in high doses is a great drug for strength gain without getting big, not to mention sense of well being, negates TREN sides

Day 11
as far as hgh goes, starting to notice significant fat reduction in midsection, with a lot of intracellular water retention, muscle hardness about a quarter less than say i you were on TREN.

Recovery is up, appetite SKY HIGH, in 6000-7000 range everyday. 400-500grams protein daily, lots of carbs, lots of saturated fats.

im not seeing results much better on 2+grams than a gram, so i will be lowering dosage, and adding in DBOL i have as well as the NPP
when it comes in, for the ultimate bulk cycle, DBOL gonna run preworkout 50mg, and NPP start at 500mg and work from there see how i handle it, and adjust accordingly.

GET HUGE
eat big lift big GET BIG

day 11 part 2
tried kigtropin today, blue tops, defiantly stronger, than chinese generic blue tops, as i fell asleep and felt slight carpal tunnel right after injection
i am going to try different types, find the most cost effective.

workout unbelievable today
body up 9 pounds, with no more bodyfat, than before
workouts unreal, recovery even more unreal
bench up 20KG since starting growth

hot damn you run some man-size dosages! I’ll be interested to hear how this turns out.

How about some info on you. Height weight, age. Lifts before AAS, after, ect?

[quote]krazylarry wrote:
How about some info on you. Height weight, age. Lifts before AAS, after, ect? [/quote]

6’5 currently 293

before aas-squat 475, bench press 425, deadlift 600
after aas- squat 700, bench press 500, deadlift 750
this is after 1.5 year use, and losing significant bodyweight

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
hot damn you run some man-size dosages! I’ll be interested to hear how this turns out.[/quote]

and im a big man, looking to get as big and lean as possible

day 12

currently up 13 pounds to 293

[quote]jasonneel wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
hot damn you run some man-size dosages! I’ll be interested to hear how this turns out.[/quote]

and im a big man, looking to get as big and lean as possible[/quote]

understatement of the century there man, good luck with your cycle

[quote]rds63799 wrote:

[quote]jasonneel wrote:

[quote]rds63799 wrote:
hot damn you run some man-size dosages! I’ll be interested to hear how this turns out.[/quote]

and im a big man, looking to get as big and lean as possible[/quote]

understatement of the century there man, good luck with your cycle[/quote]

damn straight

day 14

up 15 pounds as of today at 2 week mark

day 15
another awesome bench day up 25kg since start of hgh on top of test that was already kicked in
starting to see serious size gains in lats, chest, bicep peak has become phenomial, due to intramuscular water retention(not to be confused with extracellular bloat commonly seen in anadrol users) also quads look significantly larger as well

currently 293 bodyweight

sleeping great some seriously vivid dreams every night.

IM GETTING HUGE! GET AFTER IT TNATION!