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Hide Your Tobacco!

Another bright idea from the political genius of our time, Emperor Bloomberg.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/03/18/174672603/bloomberg-wants-retailers-to-keep-tobacco-products-out-of-sight?ft=1&f=1001

They should be bombing the shit out of the factories that produce tobacco products. We’re busy bombing everything related to WMDs into the Stone Age, or creating contingency plans to do so in the future, and the biggest killers in the world are publicly-traded companies. More people die from smoking EVERY YEAR in this world than will be killed by terrorists in the entire century. Cigarettes are the biggest weapons of mass destruction on the planet.

Awwww, relax missing hijacker, smoking related deaths like lung cancer are practically nil in people
that have smoked 100% Natural Tobacco most of their lives in countries like Africa and the Caribbean
where they have been cultivated for millennia…it’s the hundreds of chemical additives
by that’s the problem…I see your point anyway.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Cigarettes are the biggest weapons of mass destruction on the planet.[/quote]

Well

Looks like a little under 500k a year

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6108a1.htm?s_cid=ss6108a1_w

And… 784k in abortions in 2009…

So that would mean there would have to be a 36%+ reduction in abortions for cigarettes to be a bigger weapon of mass destruction.

I wonder if world wide stats hold up as well?

If people die from using a product known to cause serious health complications, let them die. Insurance shouldn’t cover smoking related illnesses in any case.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
Cigarettes are the biggest weapons of mass destruction on the planet.[/quote]

Well

Looks like a little under 500k a year

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6108a1.htm?s_cid=ss6108a1_w

And… 784k in abortions in 2009…

So that would mean there would have to be a 36%+ reduction in abortions for cigarettes to be a bigger weapon of mass destruction.

I wonder if world wide stats hold up as well?[/quote]

Okay, they’re the second biggest WMDs in the world.

I’ll jump in here because i smoke like a chimney, I know I should quit but dont want to. That said I agree insurance should have other policies in place for smoke related illness. I also feel that their are many unhealthy activities people participate in without the bullshit criticism that smokers get daily. If I want to die via lung cancer then so be it. “but second hand smoke WILL kill me!” sure but all the chemicals thrown in the air daily by cars, industial equipment, and numerous other sources are fine no possible pulmonary risks there. I would just like to finish on behalf of my fellow smokers by saying chill out people dont like it dont do it ill be considerate and keep my distance.

/end rant/

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:
I’ll jump in here because i smoke like a chimney, I know I should quit but dont want to. That said I agree insurance should have other policies in place for smoke related illness. I also feel that their are many unhealthy activities people participate in without the bullshit criticism that smokers get daily. If I want to die via lung cancer then so be it. “but second hand smoke WILL kill me!” sure but all the chemicals thrown in the air daily by cars, industial equipment, and numerous other sources are fine no possible pulmonary risks there. I would just like to finish on behalf of my fellow smokers by saying chill out people dont like it dont do it ill be considerate and keep my distance.

/end rant/
[/quote]

Every time you buy a pack of cigarettes you’re supporting terrorists.

And no, the chemicals thrown in the air daily are not fine. That’s why people are trying to find cleaner ways to use gas, alternative fuel sources, rebates are available for low-emission car purchases, we have this thing called the Clean Air Act, there are penalties for excessive carbon emissions and in many areas, using a wood-burning stove is banned or allowed on limited days/nights.

[quote]Legionary wrote:
If people die from using a product known to cause serious health complications, let them die. Insurance shouldn’t cover smoking related illnesses in any case. [/quote]

Totally agree , Insurance companies should not pay for any one that is over weight or who has ever got a traffic ticket , any one that has been divorced any one that has been arrested any one that is ugly or any one for that matter . Insurance companies should not have to cover any one they do not want to :)They should be able to make as much as they like , no regulations

Bloomberg is someone with too much money and too much free time on his hands.

where is the indignation for laws prohibiting the use of Marijuana , No lung Cancer , No addiction

[quote]DBCooper wrote:
They should be bombing the shit out of the factories that produce tobacco products. We’re busy bombing everything related to WMDs into the Stone Age, or creating contingency plans to do so in the future, and the biggest killers in the world are publicly-traded companies. More people die from smoking EVERY YEAR in this world than will be killed by terrorists in the entire century. Cigarettes are the biggest weapons of mass destruction on the planet.[/quote]

Just paying you white devils back for the Trail of Tears.

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
where is the indignation for laws prohibiting the use of Marijuana , No lung Cancer , No addiction [/quote]

Lungs do not like smoke of any kind.

Also, pot leads to the munchies, something Nanny Doomberg would despise.

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:
I’ll jump in here because i smoke like a chimney, I know I should quit but dont want to. That said I agree insurance should have other policies in place for smoke related illness. I also feel that their are many unhealthy activities people participate in without the bullshit criticism that smokers get daily. If I want to die via lung cancer then so be it. “but second hand smoke WILL kill me!” sure but all the chemicals thrown in the air daily by cars, industial equipment, and numerous other sources are fine no possible pulmonary risks there. I would just like to finish on behalf of my fellow smokers by saying chill out people dont like it dont do it ill be considerate and keep my distance.

/end rant/
[/quote]

Every time you buy a pack of cigarettes you’re supporting terrorists.

And no, the chemicals thrown in the air daily are not fine. That’s why people are trying to find cleaner ways to use gas, alternative fuel sources, rebates are available for low-emission car purchases, we have this thing called the Clean Air Act, there are penalties for excessive carbon emissions and in many areas, using a wood-burning stove is banned or allowed on limited days/nights.[/quote]
Its a type of “terrorism” im comfortable with also we prefer the term freedom fighter…

[quote]Legionary wrote:
If people die from using a product known to cause serious health complications, let them die. Insurance shouldn’t cover smoking related illnesses in any case. [/quote]

I back this.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
where is the indignation for laws prohibiting the use of Marijuana , No lung Cancer , No addiction [/quote]

Lungs do not like smoke of any kind.

Also, pot leads to the munchies, something Nanny Doomberg would despise. [/quote]

Pitt,

I mention smoke in the lungs, and the added effects of the munchies making you eat more. You reply with, “pot helps you deal with cancer and pain.”

See a problem here ?

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Pitt,

I mention smoke in the lungs, and the added effects of the munchies making you eat more. You reply with, “pot helps you deal with cancer and pain.”

See a problem here ?[/quote]

I love the end where they totally run off the road :slight_smile:

[quote]SHREDTODEATH wrote:
I’ll jump in here because i smoke like a chimney, I know I should quit but dont want to. That said I agree insurance should have other policies in place for smoke related illness. I also feel that their are many unhealthy activities people participate in without the bullshit criticism that smokers get daily. If I want to die via lung cancer then so be it. “but second hand smoke WILL kill me!” sure but all the chemicals thrown in the air daily by cars, industial equipment, and numerous other sources are fine no possible pulmonary risks there. I would just like to finish on behalf of my fellow smokers by saying chill out people dont like it dont do it ill be considerate and keep my distance.

/end rant/
[/quote]

How easy is it for you to find ‘natural’ cigarettes. I used to be a smoker too, smoked nearly a pack of marlboro lights or mediums a day, I tried switching to american spirits, even though their tobacco quality is decent, they still made me nearly gag and feel sick when I smoked them as a replacement. I didn’t even get the same sort of satisfaction from this sort of cig, I got the nicotine but something ELSE was missing… Doesn’t this bug the shit out of you as a smoker? Knowing it’s not only the tobacco you are addicted to, but the other chemical compounds that company puts in it’s product, along with the tobacco you crave?

My question is how tobacco companies are allowed to laden their product, or whatever methods of curing they use which makes their finished product so dangerous compared to others, like say Africa.

If there’s a safer product/ version of tobacco out there then isn’t it’s the governments responsibility to keep us safe? I’m saying, screw the taxes, ban the overtly cancer causing additives and let people smoke the version from Africa, create the demand.

As it is with the ATF it’s not like we are allowed to grow and cure our own tobacco, government is part of the problem on this one too, as well as many conservatives who gain their fundraising money from old pop tobacco.