HGH Peptide for My Teen Son?

I know and I told him that. I’m telling you 90% of the kids do it. They get caught weekly. It’s in Snapchat so it goes away. He swears he doesn’t keep any and he tells me everything, I think. He said why would I wanna jerk off to a 15 y/o when there’s Pornhub? I laughed and said just don’t start thinking that’s how women act during real sex. It’ll eff your mind up.

It was in a 5 inning scrimmage “game”. He’s always been one of the best, as travel ball coaches call us constantly. He played on one last year in Arkansas that was an 11-12 y/o team. Played catcher mostly bc he could throw out anyone if the pitcher didn’t get in the way. He puts it at the dirt in front of 2nd base. A lot of times the ump would call a kid out not bc he was out but bc he was astonished he could put the ball where it needed to be from his knees. And he had 14 pickoffs at 1st and 3rd base.
But this year the fence backed up 115’ and the mound 6’. Now his curve ball has time to break when before he threw it so damn hard it wouldn’t break.

This has to be a troll.

Why would you accept and encourage this behavior from a 13 year old dude?

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No, they’re not. They’re illegal outside of the context of hunting.

Yep. And they’re stupid. They share it with their friends and then they post it to FB when they get their feelings hurt because they’re immature and can’t handle that stuff.

It used to, but it doesn’t anymore.

Consider this… American society is steadily going down the drain. Speaking from firsthand experience, it’s because people suck. Why do people suck? Well, most come from bad childhoods. What caused these bad childhoods? Nine times out of 10, it was a broken home. I consider a broken home one without a steady mother and father figure. Don’t even think of it as marriage; think of it as having mom and dad stay together.

You know the fast track to a broken home? High school kids making babies. They prove time and time again that they’re not responsible enough for safe sex. So, yes, they should be discouraged from engaging in sexual activities.

They’re also not emotionally capable of handling stress. Kids nowadays are getting diagnosed with mental illnesses when they’re actually just failing to deal with regular life stresses. They’re not being taught how to handle stress and their emotions. What happens when the love of their life breaks up with them at age 15? Oh, my, it’s the end of the world and now they want to kill themselves. Oh, and they’re heartbroken so they send those nude pictures to their friends because children struggle to control their impulses.

The end result of this stupidity is children making children and then children sharing naked pictures of other children on the internet. The internet is like firing a gun; once you put something out there, it’s gone forever. No take backs.

You might think it’s conservative, but it’s actually the way decent human beings should raise their kids. They’re not emotionally ready for that stuff.

Just look at yourself. You think you were mature enough to dive into Pharma when you did? This isn’t a personal attack; it’s just a simple observation. Your results kind of speak for themselves. You’re incredibly intelligent and you’ve learned a lot about the stuff, but you should’ve never gone down that road in the first place. You didn’t really know any better because you were/are a kid.

And before you take issue with that last statement, I look back at my life and realize that I was a moron until I turned 25. I always thought I was grown up and adult like, but in retrospect, I wasn’t.

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Huh? I had hypogonadism and went on trt absent of using gear at the time/prior to TRT… that wasn’t my fault… granted my small “experiments” aren’t entirely great decisions to be making

I had chronic pain well before using gear, and the usage helped lessen joint/muscle pain dramatically

I don’t regret anything… yet… and I was well aware of the risks my decisions entailed… the age gate regarding “you can’t make a decision” doesn’t always stem as truthful… my brother is one of the most intelligent, mature teenagers I know… his ability to make rational decisions far surpasses that of any other individual our age that I know

What results are you referring to? My injuries, joint pain, hypogonadism? None of these have anything to do with my introduction to Performance Enhancing Pharmaceuticals at a young age… the real argument to make is “these compounds have profound impacts regarding neurology and the developing brain, the chance for deleterious neurological outcome to occur is compounded given you’re prefrontal cortex has yet to finish developing”. That being said I was FAR worse off before TRT/Pharma comparative to how… internally perhaps not, but mentally, physically etc things have improved for only the better.

It is conservative… teenagers have sex, punishing them for it isn’t the correct way to go about it, and we can agree to disagree on this… when I look at parenting here (in Aus…) I didn’t notice the same level of “you can’t go out with him/her, no going up to you’re bedroom” etc present as I did when in America… here we teach one how to practice safe sex, not “abstinence is the only way until an arbitrary age bracket has been reached”

That being said I don’t think naked pictures should be sent online regardless of age

That being said I don’t take offence from any of you’re statements. I’ll admit I’m young, irresponsible and have a LOT to learn

What, jerking off? Are we now saying kids shouldn’t jerk off? Good luck trying to get a kid to stop watching pornography… You can put on all the internet filters you want, it won’t stop a high school horndog… the deleterious effect regarding dopaminergic dysregulation is real… but having been a teenager within this generation… I feel as if many adults are very out of touch regarding just how bad this generation is… you’ll be very hard pressed to find a single 14-15 year old boy who doesn’t watch internet pornography. I’ve habitually watched pornography from age 14 (pretty much stopped between 15-17… hypogonadism = sex drive is dead), looked at playboy magazines starting at age 11… I turned out fine, still get aroused/erect from everyday scenarios. I’ve had sex once, hooked up before (only a few times though)… everything works

They do, and so do adults… but it’s a fucking stupid thing to do. The repercussions are potentially great (regarding emotional stress for both parties if the photos end up going around… keep in mind this pertains to adults too, revenge porn is huge… and it’s disgusting)

Kids also use gear, drugs, act promiscuously, lie, steal and more… are we just going to pretend like it doesn’t happen… while there is a line that shouldn’t be crossed regarding a parent/child relationship, from observation I find that the naughtiest kids tend to be those whose parents try controlling the fuck out of their kids, impose irrational punishment for a natural action (such as sex)… the saying ‘strict parents create sneaky kids’ pertains significance… If anything I applaud the original poster for having a relationship in which his child feels comfortable being upfront and honest with his father…

Many parents who tend to be very strict/controlling think they’ve got such a great kid, but behind their backs that kid is sneaking out every night to go smoke pot, drive around with his friends doing doughnuts on the back streets, drinking in public parks at night and engaging in risky sexual encounters… (and even this is rather mild in the grand scheme of things pertaining to teenage behaviour …)… and this shit is happening at younger and younger ages… I was once (for whatever reason) approached by some kids in my school… they asked if they could buy pot off me (like why… I’ve never implied, nor am I a dealer of anything)… they were between the ages of 11-13… I told them to (politely mind you) fuck off… to boot they were taking bong-rips in a public park, this generation is FUCKED

The really bad kids are the ones who join a group of others, go beating up passers by, stealing wallets, using hard drugs… some gym rats will even dabble in steroids, become manic while on and depressed when they come off (as they don’t understand the basic notion of HPTA shutdown)

I’m wondering why he made it sound like his son was severely over weight but now he’s saying he’s 12 percent body fat. Something doesn’t add up here. It’s almost like this guy has no idea what he’s talking about🧐

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Agreed, when I thought 5’3 170 I thought “morbidly obese fat guy with a thickset frame, naturally very talented regarding sports… but still too young to make a decision pertaining to whether this is what he wants with life”

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If he doesn’t know the difference between over weight and 12 percent body fat, maybe he shouldn’t have his son eating what he eats.

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Well we don’t know if the son is overweight. typically 140 at 5’3, age 13 pertains to the child being on the chunkier side… but perhaps he has god tier genetics?

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I suppose I’m in this camp then for thinking a 13 year old shouldn’t be bragging about watching pornhub to his father…and his father being okay with it.

Having an almost 12year old boy myself, I wouldn’t just let something like that go - no way…and I surely wouldn’t laugh and say “just know that’s not how it really is…”

That doesn’t teach a young man how to respect a woman…To act like it’s okay to watch that stuff, come on.

Did you tell your parents and show them what you were looking at from 11-15?? Or did you hide it? What did your parents think about it?

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Yes… I did… Even internet pornography (but then again I wasn’t watching pornhub at 13… I was 14)

Well one of my parents is a medical practitioner. Had a very sex positive attitude and taught me it was nothing to be ashamed of (sexual orientation, urges, masturbation etc) but warned me regarding unrealistic expectations, neurological dysregulation that can stem from pornography… I was told while I can’t be stopped, said parent didn’t approve… the other one was more critical of me watching pornography and became very aggressive about it when I was young… even regarding masturbation, but backed off when I turned 14/15 (at that age it was seen as more appropriate as this parent did the same… however supposedly it was more difficult to acquire pornography in the 70s)

I watched films like American Pie, Knocked up etc with my FAMILY at a young age… When it comes to sex, my family (all of them) tends to be quite open and understanding

I find that Americans in particular can’t fathom the notion of being open with their child about subjects that American society considers Taboo… but… this stuff isn’t taboo everywhere, different cultures have different styles of parenting, and I must say… I think the more open/honest attitude towards this stuff equates to a better outcome

THAT BEING SAID… if something like… hard drugs (anything harder than cannabis) were found in the house under my possession (psychoactive chemicals) I’d most certainly be kicked out of the house, they’re much harder regarding other subjects (understandably)… though I disagree with the notion of kicking a kid out on the street if they were using drugs (I’m not… so this isn’t a problem)

It’s not sinful, or evil… as many adults within American society have children believe… it may teach unrealistic expectations… but I watched pornography from a very young age, don’t view women as objects and have nothing but the utmost respect for them… Nor do I have unrealistic expectations (I don’t think a man should be entitled to any kind of sexual favour if the partner, be it male or female, doesn’t consent or wish to comply with said request)… I don’t think the way sex occurs within pornography is representation of normality, I’ve had sex before (once), and yes, the experience was, as to be expected, not the same as what one would see in pornography

Real sex isn’t quite as mechanical, there are… smells, fluids, noises etc that porngraphy tends to leave out… foreplay is very important… but so long as the individual knows this, is aware of the inherent risks regarding the implementation of porngraphy as a tool for masturbation… I think it’s up to the kid to make that decision… yes, kids are stupid… but they should have control over something like this

fun fact, to buy certain pornographic magazines here (typically playboy etc), the age restriction is fifteen…

Quit it with this bullshit. You have no fucking idea what you’re talking about.

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I lived in a relatively conservative area IN America for seven years, I’m sure there are differing ideologies depending on the region wherein one lives… but my school didn’t teach sex ed until year nine, at which point they taught “abstinence is the best way to go about things”

You can get aggressive with me if you wish… that’s not the kind of behaviour I’d expect from a reasonably responsible adult though… I’m entitled to my opinion, convince me there aren’t these areas that still harbour backwoods ideologies? There are areas in Australia in which many “bogans” tend to live, these individuals (tend) to still be quite homophobic, racist etc…

in my opinion i’m not wrong, look at the MPAA within America, a film is automatically off limits to a child below the age of seventeen the second female nudity (showcasing breasts) comes into play… it wasn’t always this way, there used to be exceptions so long as the nudity was not of a sexual context… because supposedly it’s not okay for a sixteen year old fragile mind to witness a sex scene, but it’s fine to see a guy get his arm blown off…

Granted things are changing slowly, sex ed programs are becoming more comprehensive, even in conservative areas… attitudes towards sexual behaviour are becoming more permissive… but compare America to say… France… the cultural difference is substantial

And yes, I’m sure I have no idea what I’m talking about based on my age… I’m getting sick of ADULTS harbouring aggressive attitudes towards me, I can’t respond with the same degree of hostility as I’ll be automatically called out for being a stupid, hotheaded kid who doesn’t know anything… It’s highly irritating. If you want to challenge my opinion, give me a constructive argument rather than “you don’t fucking know what you’re talking about”

The initial settlers in America were puritans, thus it makes sense current attitudes may, on average be somewhat more conservative

Granted if you wish to continue this argument, lets do so in another thread (tag me)… we can have a respectful debate, I don’t wish to entirely de-rail this guys thread… I just wanted to point out that personally, while my opinion might not be much because I’m a kid (though I do observe the outcomes regarding numerous styles of parenting), I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a parent letting his kid be honest (within reason)…

Not where I lived… There were numerous exceptions in which a child could legally own a gun, say if gifted to by an adult… brought at gun shows (this isn’t exactly legal though)… I went shooting for the first time at twelve, they said “have you ever shot before”… me “No”… they handed me a .357 revolver, closed the door with me and my father in a windowless room, no monitoring, no supervision… I knew one thirteen year old child whose father was a massive gun nut… he slept with a .45 magnum revolver under his pillow nightly (gifted to him by his father, he legally owned this)… the father (when in synogauge) would openly showcase the guns he CARRIED ON HIM… I was never impressed because I don’t like guns…

But I was referring to media, not actual guns/violence…

Clearly that’s represenative of the US, huh?

Quit it being a victim. This isn’t aggressive. This is direct.

Yes, you are. So am I. I think your outlook on US being prudes is ridiculous.

Interesting that you come to this conclusion, given:

These are all American movies.

Hold up…

Are we talking about American culture in general, or just small areas. This is YOUR problem. If you want to talk about specific areas don’t paint with a broad brush.

No one gives two shits about you or your age. If you aren’t clear in written form, you will be misunderstood. That’s YOUR problem.

Restricted to those under the age of seventeen, in Aus it’s fifteen, and unlike what I experienced within the US… the rule isn’t actually enforced when going to movie theatres… granted I find Australia is generally quite irritating regarding regulations and rules… restricting access to film isn’t one of them… though we do have an issue regarding the classification of video games (however this is set to change this year with a review of the outdated classification guidelines)… However even when people complain regarding video games here… age restrictions aren’t typically enforced, however the banning of video games representing drug use within a positive light is BS… it’s a fucking video game, I’m not going to go out and smoke crack because I can make a character in a video game do it… While I may not actually play video games, the notion of censorship pushed towards the masses highly irritates me

A large majority of the populace falls under the umbrella category of “conservative”… look at laws regarding abortion/reproductive rights in the majority of Australia vs America… On Average, statistically America is far more conservative, both in terms of sexual education, attitudes towards sex (in my opinon)… and what I mentioned regarding the MPAA, rules regarding what is and isn’t restricted towards individuals of differing age demographics really hones in my point. I don’t know of many first world, developed countries aside from perhaps Singapore that’ll automatically put a film off limits for under seventeen because of more than one use of “fuck” in a sexual context or a pair of female breasts. Should be mentioned the board (of the MPAA) consists of families meant to represent the generalised attitudes of the average American, they dictate it’s unacceptable for a child under the age of seventeen to view a motion picture alone because it contains a pair of tits… America tends to be conservative round the board. a 21+ drinking age, a 21+ age to purchase a cigarette, pharmacists refusing to fill birth control scripts/provide emergency contraceptions to teenagers… Abysmal gun control (in many states… if not most), abstinence only sex education curriculums… criminally penalising children for sexing/engaging in sexual relations if caught regardless of whether the action is consensual, nothing is sent around to other parties etc (many countries have safeguards against this, in the majority of America the older party can be brought up on charges of statutory rape, I actually remember it happening to a kid within the town I lived in… he was around 15, had sex with a 13-14 year old… that’s not illegal here, there’s a rule regarding a two year age gap)… what good is it to scrutinise this kid, put him under public eye of the law and potentially ruin his life with a criminal record?

Australia isn’t perfect either, while we may generally be more sex positive and/or permissive of certain behaviours… we were one of the last developed first world countries to legalise same sex marriage… that’s disgraceful

I don’t understand this… I convey my points accurately and comprehensively…

Very large portions of the country… perhaps closing in on up to 50%+ of the populace (keep in mind this is a stat pulled out of my ass)… could very well be wrong though. I recall California (generally) was far more progressive

The inclusion of profanity indicates hostility/aggression, granted I’m not great at reading someone tone of voice within the confines of real life, so on the internet this is going to be worse

That’s fine, we can agree to disagree… and there’s a difference between “prudes” and conservative

Finally in response to my initial argument at stake… I do wish to clarify there’s a difference between an honest/open relationship between a parent/child and the parents approving of the childs actions. There’s a very big difference between a parent knowing their TEENAGER watches pornography and supplying the pornography if you catch my drift. You’re not complicit within enforcing the act. As a potential rebuttal, I’d like to state I don’t agree that knowing equates to approval… (most) kids don’t care whether they garner the approval from their parents, they think (for whatever reason) that they know better to begin with, thus knowing or not knowing, it probably won’t make a difference.

This is a bit more than a simple mistake. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what the human body looks like. And if he’s actually a legit 12% bodyfat and still thinks he’s “too fat”, he’s got full-blown body dysmorphia and you should address that immediately.

Also, I have to x3 or x4, whatever it’s up to. Your “best buddy” parenting style is very weird and very likely to do more harm than good in the long run.

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you shouldn’t mess with ANY of his hormones. This can be just as damaging as anabolics, and honestly probably with a fraction of the potential upside. I hope your ideas of giving your child performance enhancing drugs of ANY kind has been squashed at this point, it’s just a terrible idea. From an ethical standpoint, a performance standpoint, a developmental standpoint, everything. It’s just not smart.

Also: You’re WAY overselling/overestimating your kid’s talent. And you’re his dad, that’s what you should do, and what you’re clearly naturally inclined to do. You should be encouraging him, without a doubt. But don’t get goddamn greedy about it. SO MUCH changes for a kid in the next few years. If you can’t pull back a little bit on this voracious appetite for baseball success with your kid, you’ll end up doing more harm than good. You can be supportive in a less… aggressive way. Don’t let your excitement and your pride cloud your judgement.

Also, listen to Dchris on the baseball stuff, he knows what he’s talking about. I can discuss general athleticism, elite strength sports, and drugs with a good deal of knowledge. He knows his baseball more than I do.

And I can’t even begin to address this child pornography stuff. Jesus.

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I grew up in Mississippi and went to a Catholic school. We had Sex Ed and put condoms on bananas like everyone else in 7th grade in the late 90’s. Everyone was fucking. I don’t think the US is very conservative towards sex or really anything for that matter. You can get or do just about anything you want fairly easily and no one really cares. Even Conservatives aren’t that conservative. They don’t really care what anyone else does except the government.

Abstinence probably is the best way to go about things. I don’t do it but if you’re worried about getting someone pregnant or an STD, not fucking would likely get you the best results.