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HGH + IGF-1 in PCT


#1

Thinking of using 4-6iu of GH plus 40mcg IGF post workout in my pct after next cycle

I would start the HGH 6-8 weeks before the end of the cycle and run it through pct and onward for as long as my budget can (4-6iu ed for at least 6 months)

IGF 4 weeks on 2 off post workout

Purely to miantain gains and try and stay anabolic as I recover?

Pct
HCG
Clomid
Nolvadex

Opinions?


#2

drop the clomid in the pct. just nolva.

Is the hgh pharma grade or ugl? if it’s top quality, 4-6 iu is awesome, and 6 months would be plenty of time to see results. If it’s ugl, hard to say, but there should be at least some benefit. If I could afford heavy peptide/gh use, I would certainly do it off-cycle.


#3

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
drop the clomid in the pct. just nolva.

Is the hgh pharma grade or ugl? if it’s top quality, 4-6 iu is awesome, and 6 months would be plenty of time to see results. If it’s ugl, hard to say, but there should be at least some benefit. If I could afford heavy peptide/gh use, I would certainly do it off-cycle.[/quote]

Yeah clomid is a funny one with me, makes me crazy emotional so always tend to drop it early anyway. It’ll be Hygetropin however I know it’s 100% legit, direct source and I know lots who have used it and got good gains.

Do you think 4-6iu + the IGF would be enough to keep me anabolic while I recover? It’s tricky as you say dependant on quality but like I say it’s legit stuff. I can get pharma growth however 1/3 the growth for the same price as the hyge,


#4

I would say that the answer to your question partially depends on your current level of development. How advanced are you? How far past ‘natural’? The further you are past your natural limits, the harder it obviously is to maintain gains, or keep gaining, off cycle. If you’re really, really high level, like internationally elite, this may not be sufficient. But if you’re just a strong competitive lifter, which based on your post history is what I’d guess you are, then I think you’ll do well at the 4-6 iu. The truth is you won’t actually know until you try it, but my best guess is that 4-6 is enough to provide the results you’re looking for.


#5

are we allowed to discuss hgh sources since they’re not steroids ? :slight_smile:


#6

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
are we allowed to discuss hgh sources since they’re not steroids ? :)[/quote]

Haha is it worth a ban risk


#7

well, i think one issue in running hGH, IGF-1 and the GHRP’s in PCT, is that most of the AI’s/SERMs reduce IGF-1 production. usually only 15-20% or so…

i’m not sure how much this is gonna affect the results, though.


#8

[quote]Boysie888 wrote:

[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
are we allowed to discuss hgh sources since they’re not steroids ? :)[/quote]

Haha is it worth a ban risk [/quote]

depends


#9

Lower production gives more reason to add igf1.