So with a 10 week cycle which gives about 7-8 weeks of gains suppression is recommended for a minimum of 14 weeks?
I dont like this cycle - it may as well be cut and pasted from the sticky we have, not to mention not even an option for the OP seeing as he started the dbol 2 weeks before anything else!
The kid (the OP) should have stopped and not been encouraged IMO - and if info was to be given to use some sort of damage control if he decides to go ahead with it anyway, then i would have thought a short cycle where he can come off easily and recover and then have time to do it properly next time would be more suitable than a 20 week cycle taper included… ESPECIALLY seeing as a SERM PCT is being advised to be ran AFTER 10 WEEKS of further stasis tapering/inhibition - when the SERM would have done anyway!
2 thumbs down from me…
thats the cycle i do, works for me.
A prevalent theme on this board is following a procedure for optimal gains and recovery.
Most people here know that there are dozens of ways to skin a cat. In a specific situation there is usually one or two ways to skin the cat as quick and painless as possible.
There is no reason why a standard SERM PCT started 2-3 weeks after the last Test E injection would not work great for a medium length cycle.
The stasis taper has it’s place and some may feel it is superior in all cases but when giving advice to a first timer it is best to keep things as simple as possible and let the person decide if they want to make changes in the future.
BTW When you start the 100mg/wk stasis portion of PCT it would be wise to wait until blood levels of T are near 100mg. That means wait a few weeks inbetween your last cycle shot and the beginning of the stasis. Going right into the stasis will delay the amount of time before your body reaches the 100mg/wk level causing extended supression. [/quote]
Thankyou Bonez, thats exactly the point.
Kerley - If you inject 1000mg once every 8 days over 20 weeks it would work - does that make it something you would blindly advise someone else to do? Nope.
On the back of your suggested cycle, the “it works for me” claim and last but not least, admitting that you suggested it simply because it is the exact same cycle you do - i dont think you’re really the best person to be suggesting cycles for people, do you?
And before you reply with “What makes YOU so qualified” i will remind you, nothing does. One doesn’t have to be ‘qualified’ to advise on AAS use online (which is a problem in many cases). But on this site - as a sort of self regulating mechanism, we all ensure the advice given is safe AND effective - not just what works for you.
When i give advice here it is based on my experience of drugs i have used, a little knowledge of the way AAS work with and against the male endocrine system and of course, relavant applied common sense. Not just blindly handing out ‘what works for me’ ESPECIALLY when it is unrelated to the question in the thread.
I would also urge you to revise your own cycle plan if this is all it entails, you could do a lot better - especially in regards of recovery. Maybe you could start a thread and ask for someone to review what you currently do…