I have very high cholesterol too, but I don’t know the breakdown of the numbers (because they wouldn’t give them to me argh) but the doctor didn’t think it was a concern and my glucose levels, blood pressure, resting heart rate and physical fitness are all quite good so I don’t worry about it.
I eat a lot of fat (all kinds), eggs, fish(large portions of salmon 3-5 times a week) and moderately low carb ~(50% fat, 30% protein, 20% carb) and mostly low-GI carbs, so as far as I’m concerned, it’s just a number.
Besides, the jury is still out on the relationship between heart disease and cholesterol levels.
Don’t stress too much over it. Just make sure you keep doing the right things for your health.
I agree with low(er) carb (ditch the potatoes, pasta, and bread, even whole wheat). Instead of oatmeal, try oat groats. If you must go with bread, get the nutty/seedy kind. Make sure you get lots of healthy oil, MCTs (coconut oil), olive oil, etc.
Avoid oils heavy in omega 6 FA. Supplement with tons of fish oil… two full servings of Flameout or a serving of Flameout plus a dozen costco fish oil pills per day. Add flax or chia seed to your oat groats.
Also, although it’s heresy around here, try adding a day or two of cardio to your heavy lifting.
Only consider drugs if after 6 months of this your tris are still high.
[quote]speedster00 wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. A couple of things, Why no omega -6? I’m taking labrada’s lean gold right now.
The best thing to buy is plain old cheap fish oil pills?[/quote]
Why on earth would you supplement with omega - 6? Omega 6 is the fat that’s in everything - the whole point of taking fish oil is to level out the ratio between omega 3 and omega 6s. If you wanted some more omega 6s you could just down some vegetable oil.
Take fish oil.
Increase your vegetable intake.
Take 2 tsp of sugar free metamucil a day.
Buy some flax seed, throw it in your protein shakes or just down it with some water.
Get some basic (as in acid - base) vegs like spinach.
Consider going no carb on a few days a week. Drink some plain coffee if you’re tired.
Lose some weight. Yes, it will make a big difference. You don’t exactly look all that lean in your avatar, and you look like your storing a decent amount of visceral fat, which is a prime contributer to elevated triglycerides.
[quote]speedster00 wrote:
I recently had blood work done for insurance. I purposely lost 15 pounds for the weigh in. So, I’m 5’7 180 down from 194. I wear a 32" waist pant and measure 47 at the chest.
I work out very heavy on average 4 times a week with mixed in interval training. I dont drink sodas and nearly every thing I eat is home made and I eat 5-6 times a day…
Egg whites and oatmeal for breakfast, left overs for lunch which is usualy a rice and meat something, protien after my WO, dinner, then another shake or a chicken salad at night before bed.
now to get down to my questions. My cholesterol was 210 and my tryglicerides were 450…450!!! thats off the chart damn near.
Hi cholesterol runs in my family. so I’m not surprised at the 210 number. but 450??? that would make me think I eat horribly and I dont. hell, I dont even eat fast food. And if I do its chick-fil-a sandwich.
The only thing I did was eat a bowl of ice cream the night before the test. But it was 18 hours earlier and that shouldnt be enough to sky rocket that number. I need help guys. that 450 number bothers me. Can any one give me advise?? [/quote]
Wow, you need to go on the atkins diet. Once you get your carbs down to 50 grams per day or less your triglycerides will go down. I’m on the Atkins and my numbers are 186 total 131 LDL 46 HDL and 43 for triglycerides.
[quote]speedster00 wrote:
koffea wrote:
a low carb (ie <100gm/day), combined with 20gms of soluble fiber a day, and 1 - 2 tbsp fish oil a day have done wonders for my triglyceride numbers as well as the rest of my cholesterol numbers.
How do you keep your carbs that low and still have enough energy to function? I work full time (even though its a desk job) and have a wife and 2 kids at home. so my schedule is pretty busy until about 8:30 at night. I can cut the carbs some, but not so low I dont have energy.[/quote]
In my opinion it depends on the type of fats you consume. I have more energy than I did when I ate carbs if I consume high amounts of coconut oil and fish oil.
Another unnecessary drug that can do more harm that good. Wow, what a surprise. [/quote]
How so? Do you have any knowledge on the topic or are you just talking out of your ass? Tell me how Lovaza can do more harm than good?
In fact YOU even stated that you consume high amounts of fish oil…unregulated supplement company fish oil that may have all sorts of nasty stuff in it at worst or perhaps no fish oil at all…but somehow you can say that Lovaza would do more harm than good???
Do you even know what it is? Can you read? Links were even provided in which you could have educated yourself before posting…
Another unnecessary drug that can do more harm that good. Wow, what a surprise.
How so? Do you have any knowledge on the topic or are you just talking out of your ass? Tell me how Lovaza can do more harm than good?
In fact YOU even stated that you consume high amounts of fish oil…unregulated supplement company fish oil that may have all sorts of nasty stuff in it at worst or perhaps no fish oil at all…but somehow you can say that Lovaza would do more harm than good???
Do you even know what it is? Can you read? Links were even provided in which you could have educated yourself before posting…
[/quote]
My fish oil is regulated by the free market. If it had toxins, then no one would purchase it. I guess working for the government for 5 years has soiled my belief in regulation not to mention the god awful fda food pyramid. How is all that regulation working for the finacial markets?
Yes, I have knowledge about how to lower triglycerides. When you eat excessive carbs, some of the carbs enter the bloodstream, the others are stored in the liver, and the remaining are converted in to triglycerides. Cut the carbs and you won’t need any fucking drugs.
[quote]mechanicsteve wrote:
How is all that regulation working for the finacial markets?
[/quote]
I see your knowledge on that topic is just as limited…in fact, it was your DEregulated free market that is the problem there.
You never pointed out though how Lovaza does more harm than good???
But now that I see you are just an internet kook that gets their info from other internet kooks, I can ignore your further ramblings as they are completely uninformed…but for the topic starter that was actually searching for info, I thought I’d share some actual useful information. Hope he can wade through the goofballs and find something that will help him.
[quote]BJ* wrote:
mechanicsteve wrote:
How is all that regulation working for the finacial markets?
I see your knowledge on that topic is just as limited…in fact, it was your DEregulated free market that is the problem there.
You never pointed out though how Lovaza does more harm than good???
But now that I see you are just an internet kook that gets their info from other internet kooks, I can ignore your further ramblings as they are completely uninformed…but for the topic starter that was actually searching for info, I thought I’d share some actual useful information.
Hope he can wade through the goofballs and find something that will help him.
[/quote]
By being a transfat, Lovaza is does more harm than good. That and I'm sure in a year or two people will be suffering from some horrendous side effects from this unnecessary drug. You believe what you want to believe and I will believe what I want to believe.
I believe drugs are unnecessary and harmful and you don’t. I believe in the Atkins diet to lower triglycerides and only that. I believe in freedom, and you believe in statism. You live your life, and I will live my life.
Okay…been away and sorry for being bitchy earlier…must have been in a bad mood
Back to topic though respectfully.
Where does this idea that Lovaza contains trans fat come from? its simply not true…did you get it from the earlier poster? gelatin capsules contain a bit of vegatable oil…i assume that is where this misrepresentation comes from…check YOUR fish oil capsules…probably the same type of capsule is used…
So with that established…it IS fish oil…everyone, even you, think thats a good thing. It actually has cholesterol removed from it.
So at WORST, you can only say then that you prefer your fish oil over-the-counter…My point was, you get documented quality (the FDA does do inspections) and may even have a price advantage depending on your co-pay.
As for drugs generally, your viewpoint is reasonable for a healthy young man…lets hope you or a loved one doesn’t get an infection, have an asthma attack, develop cancer, etc…try not to get hurt either…if you need surgery, i’d hate for you to have to tell the anesthesiologist that you don’t believe in drugs.
But yeah, lifestyle choices go a long way I agree.
As for the Free Market determining that a product is beneficial…I guess I should get No-Xplode, the hottest supplement on the market. Afterall, if THAT many people are buying it, it MUST contain and do exactly what it claims???
Sure. I believe fish oil is being studied in for asthma also…as well as a host of other inflammatory diseases (even autism)…that’s why Lovaza was developed…when scientists starting realizing the potential of fish oil, they needed a controlled, quality pill to use in human studies…Lovaza became that pill.
That said, all the fish oil in the world won’t save a severe ashmatic from an acute attack the way a short acting beta agonist might…but yeah, there may be the potential to control daily symptoms…