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Help on Growth Plates, Testosterone

Hey guys

Serious thread here, and I need your guys replies.

I’m 18 and 5’4’’ in height, male, which I’m sure the majority if not all people on here would agree that is small for a male at 18.

So, I decided to get it checked out by my doctor and got BloodTest done, and turns out I got a Testosterone Level of 3.5 nmol/L - the min and max stated on the form was (8.5-27.5) so I am clearly way too low.

I went back to the doc and the doc told me that there are 'several types of types within the testosterone - one being sex hormones (and I cant remember the others) < Is this correct?

So I got my wrist x-ray’d and had a urine sample? After 2-3 weeks I got the results back and my doc has said that the bone is ‘almost fused’ and ‘there is nothing that can be done’.

Hmmm… now hold on a minute. I’ve got low testosterone, the bones are almost (not fully) fused. Surely there is a window of oppurtunity for HGH hormone to ‘get in’ before the bones fuse?

Im knowledge-less in this area, and of course it is of my greatest concern to find out what I can. I’m trying to search the internet, however can’t help but come across fake websites claiming to help growth etc - so I’d rather ask you guys here the pros and find out the deal and any information I can.

Any replies here in this thread would be extremely appriciated and thank you for reading this far through my post. I appriciate it.

If this is in the wrong section I apologise, and would a mod kindly place it in the correct section.

Thanks,
TNDude

[quote]TNDude wrote:
Hmmm… now hold on a minute. I’ve got low testosterone, the bones are almost (not fully) fused. Surely there is a window of oppurtunity for HGH hormone to ‘get in’ before the bones fuse?
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Did you put this question to your doctor? It doesn’t sound like you did. I would ask your doctor (if you haven’t already). He should give some kind of explanation as to why what you’re suggesting isn’t possible (if it isn’t, of course) - if he doesn’t, ask him to explain, and then try to sense if he knows what he’s talking about.

Failing that, you could seek a second opinion - or just get one anyway. Perhaps someone more specialized in this kind of stuff.

[quote]w00tage wrote:
TNDude wrote:
Hmmm… now hold on a minute. I’ve got low testosterone, the bones are almost (not fully) fused. Surely there is a window of oppurtunity for HGH hormone to ‘get in’ before the bones fuse?

Did you put this question to your doctor? It doesn’t sound like you did. I would ask your doctor (if you haven’t already). He should give some kind of explanation as to why what you’re suggesting isn’t possible (if it isn’t, of course) - if he doesn’t, ask him to explain, and then try to sense if he knows what he’s talking about.

Failing that, you could seek a second opinion - or just get one anyway. Perhaps someone more specialized in this kind of stuff.[/quote]

Thanks for posting w00tage.

I haven’t yet I am going to talk to the doctor about this. I feel that I am being pushed to one side because im not severly under-height and its like I am not important. However to me it is important and compared to my friends I am the shortest so of course it is of my concern. Perhaps they want to save money in treatment because I’m not “desperate”? I dont know.

Thanks once again and I’m all ears peeps :slight_smile:

Did he even tell you why you have abnormally low test levels? Also, I would probably feel the same way, so keep pushing until he’s forced to care enough to give it to you straight.

I’m pretty short too, embrace it.

[quote]w00tage wrote:
Did he even tell you why you have abnormally low test levels? Also, I would probably feel the same way, so keep pushing until he’s forced to care enough to give it to you straight.

I’m pretty short too, embrace it.[/quote]

No the doc didnt give a reason for the abnormal low test levels. I questioned why it was low (the doc said slightly low - but it is clearly more than slightly) and all I got told was there are different types of the hormone that exist within the “Testosterone”.

[quote]TNDude wrote:
w00tage wrote:
Did he even tell you why you have abnormally low test levels? Also, I would probably feel the same way, so keep pushing until he’s forced to care enough to give it to you straight.

I’m pretty short too, embrace it.

No the doc didnt give a reason for the abnormal low test levels. I questioned why it was low (the doc said slightly low - but it is clearly more than slightly) and all I got told was there are different types of the hormone that exist within the “Testosterone”.[/quote]

Sounds like the guy doesn’t know shit. I would find another doctor.

First, you need to find, or get referred to, a specialist. I would suggest googling “compounding pharmacies <your city, state>” without the quotes. If you can’t find one that way, call a regular pharm and ask where they get theirs done. Tell the compounding pharm that you would like a list of doctors in the area that have prescribed testosterone, HCG and maybe HGH.

I am older than you but have low test as well. I found a great doctor this way. Call multiple pharmacies if you have to (some will not know). They should be willing to give you this information because it could result in more business for them.

Look up the doctors and find out if they are a GP (means general practitioner which could include “family doctor” or “internist”) or a specialist. If they are a GP, then you don’t need a referral, just make an appointment. If they are an endocrinologist or urologist (or some other “-ist”), you will most likely need a referral from your doc. Tell him you found one you want to see and ask for the referral.

Second, ask your doctor for copies of every blood, urine or saliva test he’s taken related to this condition. Take these to your new doctor once you find one.

Third, post this over in the Steroids section. There are very knowledgeable people there. Do not do this until you have the numbers in hand and always post what kind of test it was (blood, saliva, etc.) and what the reference range is for each (these are the numbers next to your score in parentheses that indicate the “normal” range).

Fourth, as someone stated above, do not listen to anyone telling you to self medicate, whether OTC or Rx. You need to find someone who knows what they are doing and get good medical treatment.

Most doctors don’t know shit about hormone replacement therapy (HRT). Even if you have a doc who is willing to prescribe you testosterone, you don’t want him using you as his guinea pig. You need to find someone who knows their shit.

Lastly, do not let this go. Do something about it now. You are young and you may have an opportunity to correct your physical impairments before it is too late.

Good luck.

Wow thanks alot for the reply Tyler23. Will definatley take up upon your comments and move forward. I’ll keep this thread updated.

Thanks for the encouragement to take it on, I for one agree that perhaps because I am ‘young’ I can do something about it.

All I get told is “That is just the way I am genetically” etc but I mean I get a vibe that its not right - and as I said low test levels? Surley that means I am not ‘normal’ as I should be.

Thanks guys.