Hey Guys,
New to the forum and was hoping to get some advice on my first cycle of dbol. Hopefully I’ll get some informative info back that could be useful. I think Im on the right track but it’s never a bad idea to get some fresh eyes one something like this.
A bit about myself.
33 this month
Ectomorph
5"9
70 - 75kg
Bf 15-16%
Haven’t been in the gym for 8 months due to shoulder injury. Before that I was on a 5x5 for the last 6 years with a break in the last year to go train as a chef abroad which made me put weight on and after the injury even more!
I’ve been doing rehab this whole time and ready to get back into the gym. I’m going to continue the 5x5 however, dropping some weight and working my way back up. Im currently already eating clean but not taking in massive calories atm. I want to work out for around 8-12 weeks first before starting my cycle. I just want my pharma to be ready before I do.
My aim:
I basically want to bulk up as I’m a hard gainer and have tried in the past with ok results but I feel I need that extra push and have basically tried everything else. I’m super cautious and don’t want to blow up massively but have a good frame work in which I can improve my physique.
The gym:
First 8-12 weeks just training on 5x5 and towards week 5/6 adding isolations, core and push/pull workouts. 5x5 - 3times a week and one extra day for areas that I need to work on.
On cycle i would be focusing on heavy 5x5 workouts and isolations.
Off cycle: 5x5 maintaining strength, core and isolations every other time.
The cycle:
4weeks
Dbol 30mg split between 3-4 times daily (10mg tabs)
Liv 52
Milk thistle
DMT blocker
I have hgh that I’ll probably take but only have enough for 3 weeks worth.
I’ll be taking other supplements as well but nothing crazy:
Multivitamins
Cla
zinc
Ala
Diet:
I’ll be in calorie surplus eating around:
140-160g of protein
270g of carbs
60g of fat
Please bear in my I work in the food industry so I’m not concerned with this as I’ll be fine and have access to great produce. This would also include foods rich in vitamins and supplements as well like shakes to get extra like beta alanine, potassium etc.
The above I’m planning to do but where I need major advice is on the pct and using ai during the cycle.
I’ve read that using a ai during the cycle can reduce water retention but I’m not too concerned about that as I’ve been told that the water lubricates your joints and helps with the workouts which I rather have.
I’m very concerned about side effects hence the DMT blocker as I think I may be prone to pattern baldness so being safe on that side.
Gyno is another one and I’ve heard that if you see signs of this then that’s when you use the ai. I don’t think the amount of dbol is insanely high so hopefully no side effects seen.
My questions are:
1.If I have to use ai during cycle due to side effects, what do I take and how much for how long?
And generally what should I do if I see side effects (apart from stopping the use of dbol)
2.What should I take for pct, what dosage and for how long?
The second question I just need clarification. I’ve heard either clomid or nolva but I don’t know which one is better and again at what dosage and for 3-4 weeks?
After the pct I want a good 4 week cleanse, continue to eat right, excercise 3-4 times a week and I will be running clen towards the end of August times to trim up a bit.
Any help or advice on the above would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Lorenzo