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heart thing


#1

i started training seriously about 2 months ago, before that i have just done pushups and worked hard (at work) lifting things. i eat weider mega mass after training. i do 6-10 reps 4 sets. iv gained bout 4 kilos, but think i can gain faster. strength is actually what im after, not just size, but the two seem to walk hand in hand.
anyways, one day infront of the computer my heart started beating real hard, i got the feeling i hadto burp or something, didnt feel good at all, it was bout a month ago. now again after a really hard karate training thing it came again. i had trained real hard the day before that and was really sore. post karate i drank a mega mass thing then ate a good meal. im 21 years old, do i have a heart condition or what is this? i really love lifting weights, the whole deal of it. i also took some creatine a month ago for a week. i have read ALOT about training and dont understand why this happends.


#2

Yes, there are a lot of knowledgeable paople on this board, but at best you'll just get educated guesses. Go see a specialist. Best case scenario, you had some gas and it's nothing to worry about. Worst case, you're detecting a bad situation early and can take measures before it kills you. Make the appointment today.


#3

I could tell you what I think it is or what's most probably, but that would be irresponsible on my part as you provided very little information, and I'm not there to examine you. Take brider's advice and go have it checked out in person by a doc.


#4

Does sound like what brider says: Gas. But if I were you I would still go and check it out. Also I haven't to had heart problems when I was younger had heart surgery when I was 6weeks old. Still training hard! Feel that working-out makes the heart even stronger.


#5

I agree with brider and DocT. Don't put it off. Get in to a doctor now.


#6

ok, thanks guys, ill check with a doc. just went to one for a bad knee, starting to suspect myself of whatever its called when you "run to the doctor screaming for every little thing". jeje.


#7

That's called being an "hypochondriac."


#8

I agree you should have this checked out immediately without question. Not sure if it is the same but my wife (39) had a condition with her heart since she was 17. She would have episodes (out of the blue) where her heart would start beating rapidly - up to 225 bpm. She was diagnosed with SVT - Supra Ventricular Tachycardia. It is not life threatening but is very uncomfortable and caused her a lot of anguish because it could start at any given time of day but would be especially sensitive after working out. Sometimes she could get it to stop and other times would actually have to go to the hospital and have them reset it with an intravenous drug. After a major episode at the gym this summer during a workout (911, paramedics, etc.) she decided to have surgery in December - Radio Frequency Ablation - and is completely cured and has started working out again. Not trying to give any diagnosis but definitely something to mention when seeing the doc because it took several years before she had someone diagnose it correctly. Good luck.


#9

Obviously, you must see a specialist. However, you may find that you are having a reaction to the mega mass drink that you ingested. Perhaps an intolerance of artificial sweeteners or something. Switch to a different drink or eliminate it to see what happens but as everyone says: see that doctor.


#10

RFA for treatment of SVT? That's a first on me. I know it's been used for tumors in the brain and liver, but the heart? I'd love to hear more about this.


#11

Brider, that's what cardiac electrophysiologists get paid to do almost exclusively. More often than not they're ablating accessory tracts that cause Wolf-Parkinson-White syndrome. SVT can also be caused by an aberrant pathway leading to a reentrant loop in the atria. In essence, the electrical conduction doesn't go from atrium to ventricle, but from atrium to atrium to atrium, etc. with an occasional, and sometimes regular, escape to the ventricle. This is why it's called SUPRAventricular tachycardia. The doc finds the accessory tract (and I'm quite honestly not sure how they do this) and radio-ablate it.

The going rate in my area of the country for one of these guys is about 2.5 million a year right now. Very, very specialized, and these guys are sharp as they come.


#12

My wife just found out about the procedure after her episode in the summer and her doctor suggested she consider it because of the frequency of occurence. She did try medication for a few months but it caused her to gain weight because she couldn't get her heart rate above 70 bpm even after weight training or 30 min on the treadmill. It reduced the frequency of episodes but didn't stop them completely. The doctor who did the ablation procedure is Martin Emert of Mid-America Cardiology at KU Medical Center in Kansas City, MO. He is a cardioligist who specializes in electrophysiology of the heart. The procedure was approximately 2 - 2 1/2 hours. They inserted catheters in veins of each leg in the groin area and they are hooked up to a machine. They somehow start the heart into the fast rythym and are able to determine the area causing the misfire (extra electrical pathway) and using radio frequency, they destroy the cells. (This is how the doctor explained it to me and my wife, if there is a doctor on this board who is knowledgeable about this they could explain it better in more medical terms.) All I can say is that it was incredible and my wife wishes she would have known about this years ago. They have been doing it since 1989. There are obvious risks but the percentages are low and Dr. Emert has done over 1,000 without incident. Hope that helps. Take care.