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Heart Problems?

For the past 5 days, randomly probably 2 times a day, I feel my heart pumping a huge contraction…

I dont feel any pain and when this happens, I can still take a deep breath.

It’s kind of like when you swallow something, the food goes down your throat, pauses, struggles, and resumes its way down your throat… Except i feel this in my chest.

It feels, takes a huge ‘gulp’ and resumes like my heart pauses… Any Ideas?

Recent changes that have occurred in my body:

-I’m on my fifth day of dieting (from bulking)
-I do cardio every morning (mon-fri) at 5:30 am and wieght train at 5:30 pm.
-I’ve started to take caffeine pills (allthough this still occurs on weekends when I dont consume caffeine).
-My resting HR varies from 46 to 60 BPM.

I’ll be taking my blood pressure today.

Caffeine plays a big role. Lots of people with irregular hearts due to large amounts of caffeine in their body. Cut back on that for a few days and see how it goes.

If i drink alot of soda or tons of coffee then mine will get all outa wack.

[quote]Oldfart wrote:
Caffeine plays a big role. Lots of people with irregular hearts due to large amounts of caffeine in their body. [/quote]

I get what you describe if I am using too much caffeine, I cut my coffee to only 2 days a week and have yet to have that happen again…

Solid

I’ll try that… It must be the caf… because I never drink coffee nor do I expose to caffinated products.

This morning i loaded on 600 mg. I thought two two weren’t enough, i didn’t feel the effects. :slight_smile:

Since my workout, (the stimulant wore off) i haven’t felt it.

I’m going to cut to 1 during my morning cardio and 3 a day. If i still get this feeling, I’ll cut it out completely.

dunno if it’s caffeine, coz i get the same thing from time to time.the pain is sometimes rediculous bt passes after bout half a min, and i don’t take in much caffeine.got a medical recently and nothing showed up, so not worrying too much about it.

Call me nuts, but if I suspected something was wrong with my heart I would err on the side of talking to a Doctor, rather than some random people on the internet…

[quote]rock27 wrote:
dunno if it’s caffeine, coz i get the same thing from time to time.the pain is sometimes rediculous bt passes after bout half a min, and i don’t take in much caffeine.got a medical recently and nothing showed up, so not worrying too much about it.[/quote]

If you feel pain, something is obviously wrong and the doc didn’t pick it up.

Take this as an example: I know someone who would have tiny shakes in his right thumb. He went to the doctor was told he’s fine, nothing is wrong. A year passed by and the shaking spread to his hand, increasing bit by bit.

Now this person has Parkinsons, his whole arm and leg shake. He takes pills to prevent the spreading. If that physician would have sent him to a specialist, effects could have been way minor and the spreading would have stopped.

Example 2: if you wen to the mechanic, and told him my breaks are acting funny as they fail to stop every once in a while for a few seconds. The mech. informs you there’s nothing wrong, would you beleive him?

[quote]Joe D. wrote:
Call me nuts, but if I suspected something was wrong with my heart I would err on the side of talking to a Doctor, rather than some random people on the internet…[/quote]

You’re absolutely right.

I was just asking on here because i wanted a quick answer.

[quote]Hussayn wrote:
rock27 wrote:
dunno if it’s caffeine, coz i get the same thing from time to time.the pain is sometimes rediculous bt passes after bout half a min, and i don’t take in much caffeine.got a medical recently and nothing showed up, so not worrying too much about it.

If you feel pain, something is obviously wrong and the doc didn’t pick it up.

Take this as an example: I know someone who would have tiny shakes in his right thumb. He went to the doctor was told he’s fine, nothing is wrong. A year passed by and the shaking spread to his hand, increasing bit by bit.

Now this person has Parkinsons, his whole arm and leg shake. He takes pills to prevent the spreading. If that physician would have sent him to a specialist, effects could have been way minor and the spreading would have stopped.

Example 2: if you wen to the mechanic, and told him my breaks are acting funny as they fail to stop every once in a while for a few seconds. The mech. informs you there’s nothing wrong, would you beleive him? [/quote]

Fair enough, i’m just saying it’s not really putting me out too much, so i’m not going to go losing sleep over it. But, i fully see your point.

Been to the doctor :slight_smile: Told me to cut my caffine… worked wonders :slight_smile:

Always error on the side of being safe though. In life go see the doctor, spend the $20-whatever and make sure.

Props to Joe for stating the smarter answer.

I experienced this same time for several months and it was started to really affect my work outs because I felt like I couldn’t breathe. I had to stop all my stims and thermogenics for a week for it to go away. I now am on a search for something for energy that won’t do this to me.

What you are describing sounds like a premature ventricular contraction (PVC). Absent underlying heart disease or defect, they can be quite normal and most people don’t even know they have them. PVC’s can be caused by lots of things, including stimulants, stress, etc.

Anyway, definitely get checked by a cardiologist to rule out anything problematic that may be causing it. Chances are its harmless but only if you don’t have a problem causing it. So go to the doc and get some assurance.

Good luck!

I have discovered i experience heart palpitations ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palpitation )

“Those who experience palpitations may have the feeling that their heart stops beating for a moment, and then starts again with a “thump” or a “bang”. Usually this feeling is actually caused by an extra beat (premature beat or extrasystole) that happens earlier than the next normal beat, and results in a pause (called a Compensatory Pause) until the next normal beat comes through. People are not usually aware of the early, extra beat, but may be aware of the pause, which follows it (the heart seems to stop). The beat after the pause is more forceful than normal (due to filling with more blood than usual during the Compensatory Pause), giving the “thumping” sensation.”

I’m going to be quitting caffeine until these symptoms stops. I will then take very little doses and taper up until symptoms appear again, then taper back down.

Will see if this works. I’m waiting to see a cardiologist (freee in canada)

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
What you are describing sounds like a premature ventricular contraction (PVC). Absent underlying heart disease or defect, they can be quite normal and most people don’t even know they have them. PVC’s can be caused by lots of things, including stimulants, stress, etc.

Anyway, definitely get checked by a cardiologist to rule out anything problematic that may be causing it. Chances are its harmless but only if you don’t have a problem causing it. So go to the doc and get some assurance.

Good luck!

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Usually PVC affects people like Lance Armstrong more often who have very low blood pressures. The heart takes a pause and starts to beat extremely fast.

Here are other common problems people experience:
Hypertrophy of the heart (heart gets too big and NO, that’s not a good thing)
Dilation of the heart due to poor blood flow
A sudden blow to the chest (more common in younger people, ever heard of the kid who played catch with dad? Dad threw the baseball and directly smacked the kid on the chest, living the kid in a fatal condition) which causes the condition mentioned below.

3 of these contribute to something known as the “circus movement.” Basically, this can cause fibrillation (makes the heart quiver and just sit there). It can be pretty serious and even fatal.

Hope you get it checked out,
Good luck.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
What you are describing sounds like a premature ventricular contraction (PVC). Absent underlying heart disease or defect, they can be quite normal and most people don’t even know they have them. PVC’s can be caused by lots of things, including stimulants, stress, etc.

Anyway, definitely get checked by a cardiologist to rule out anything problematic that may be causing it. Chances are its harmless but only if you don’t have a problem causing it. So go to the doc and get some assurance.

Good luck!

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A couple years back I had the same symptoms. Went to cardioligist and did every test under the sun. She concluding that I had PAV(pre atrial contractions)which could be caused by stimulants, stress etc, and they are nothing to be concerned about. But she also discovered I had a slight to moderate enlargement of my heart and told me to back off on lifting and do more cardio. They still come and go every so often.

I can’t believe this question is actually being asked on a forum on the internet.

[quote]DanErickson wrote:
I can’t believe this question is actually being asked on a forum on the internet.[/quote]

Take the time to learn about the heart and its possible conditions. This is a good opportunity.