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Hcg vs Nova?

new to this and am trying to find out which one would be better post-cycle hcg or nova?. would appreciate any info. thanks

[quote]neversatisfied wrote:
new to this and am trying to find out which one would be better post-cycle hcg or nova?. would appreciate any info. thanks[/quote]

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Although HCG does stimulate endogenous testosterone production, it doesn’t help in regaining the normal HPTA. The hypothalamus and pituitary are still down after a steroid cycle, and remain this way while HCG is being used, because the endogenous testosterone produced as a result of the exogenous HCG represses the endogenous LH production. Once the HCG is discontinued, then the ACTUAL post-cycle can begin. So there is absolutely no point in taking is after your regular cycle, because that is almost the same as extending your cycle.

HCG is like a direct lutenizing hormone message to the balls, thus bypassing your HPTA’s little system of checks and balances… you produce test even in the presence of extensive androgens. Taking it after cycle is pure stupidity. Your first concern should be to restore LH production. Well, if you are supplying your balls with artificial LH, then your pituitary doesn’t need to make any and you do not resume production. Right when you stop the HCG, you are in the same position as if you had just stopped the cycle. In addition, the HCG temporarily desensitizes your balls to LH messages, thus making your recovery even harder. So now you have let your balls decay during the cycle, and slowed down your recovery post cycle.

Chotto’s opinion appears to this newbie to be a big departure from the standard pct of useing HCG in combination with Clomid or Nolvadex. In fact it is in direct opposition to the above link. Do many of you support Chotto’s opinion? Need some quick answers cuz I’m just about to order my first cycle gear anyday now.

IMO, hcg does have it’s place in a cycle…as chotto has pointed out, you don’t want to be running it simultaneously w/ your clomid/nolva…take your hcg in very small amts 250-500iu in a fashion that conveniently allows you to begin your clomid/nolva the day after hcg cessation…in other words, make sure the aas metabolites will be out of your system the same time you discontinue hcg…this protocol has allowed me to keep every lb lbm gained off a cycle.

MK