Been on TRT for 4 years due to Primary Hypogonadism…
Was on 125mg a week of T cyp
HCG 250iu x 3
Arimidex .125mg biweekly (im sensitive)
Last bloods at this protocol 1.5days after HCG and 7 days after T shot. 1pm in the day
(note measurement type)
E2: 123 pmol
Testo: 25.6 nmol
SHBG: 34 nmol
FreeT: 567 pmol
Was no fatigue, good muscle, no excess fluid, fluctuating sex drive, no morning wood… bearable.
(I have Peyronies disease, so bad blood flow n no MW is deadly for my penile health)
Then well the F*ing Primoteston Injection shortages has just wrecked my protocol as now until April (Coz im in backwards Australia) I have to be on 5mg patches again like years ago when was tryna dial in.
Last bloods while on patches:
1.5days after HCG and 15hrs since 5mg patch put on. 1pm in the day
I know FSH n LH are missing from my first bloods, but they were ZERO and im going off Teste size, (which was bigger) not stimulation - as stimulation hasnt led to higher relevant bloods anyway.
FSH .3 IU/L
LH .3 IU/L
E2 110 pmnol
Testo 26.3 nmol
SHBG 43 nmol
FreeT 500 pmol
The issue Im having now is, well patches suck, not just coz they come off when you sweat etc but coz osmosis is a horribly fluctuating 'science.'
So where as before my HCG protocol was making testicle size regain as IM injections slowly released the T, now the T floods my system n causes my testes to shrink worse than before!
Yet to see anyone talk re balancing teste size n HCG benefits while on daily patches coz you cant time your HCG shots around any injection day like Virgel suggests.
Im very surprised I cant find a similar qu since this Primo shortage has been from August n surely others are back on the patches too?!
Anyone had luck with testicular maintenance on patches at all?
Did you shoot HCG daily in 125iu dosages, or shoot a whole monotherapy dose all at once?
How was your experience with aromatisation and E2 levels and subsequent success with your AI?
I figured every 2nd day 250iu would have worked due to the HCG half life but it definately cant keep up with how much T those damn patches flood into you.
I dont care what the numbers say to this, my testes have shrunk again to tiny since the patches and 250iu x3 hcg protocol.
Thanks for any advice or anaedoctal evidence!
I do not believe in the numbers game as a strict help at all, so please dont ask for further detailed numbers… my endocrinologist cannot find patterns after 4 years, nor can I… Ive had every kinda dif ratio over the years n every other test on cortisol et al possible.
(Im saying this because over the years, someone here has had a problem, shown their numbers, got advice, acted on it n had success… but having the same numbers, following the same advice, ive gotten worse… so its very arbitrary.)
So the direct correlating suggestion 'your ## is too high, your ## is too low' is welcome and may give me some insight, but so subjective that its not the biggest help compared to anecdotal trial n result.
Thanks so much for reading, this community is great!