Just because Anabolics 2007 suggest one method - conventional PCT, doesnï¿½??t mean itï¿½??s the only way or even the best. That being said, there is nothing wrong with conventional PCT in the general sense.
You canï¿½??t get your head around the taper? Or Hcg use? The taper should make sense to anyone that doesnï¿½??t believe that exogenous testosterone permanently suppresses someone, does birth control cause permanent damage to women? Again though, conventional PCT is fine ï¿½?? they both work, the decision has more to do with future plans and timelines regarding future cycles and whatnot, rather than what works better ï¿½?? they both have their pros and cons.
The Hcg use looks real good. I would start HCG as soon as suppression starts at the testicular level ï¿½?? about 4-5 days. Start at the end of week 1 and run through the end as the low 250iu dose will be efficient and effective with the little suppression that starts soon into a cycle, the idea of waiting until it has kicked in harder is warranted, but not necessary with the small dose to avoid desensitization.
I like his cream as far as the idea behind it. Nolvadex is a standard for conventional PCT, but is not needed, and with running HCG during the cycle and coming off with testosterone as the last steroid to leave your body, endogenous production should not be a problem with time and support. The stuff in his cream is stuff that I would recommend even with standard PCT. I would honestly reconsider a taper at this point though, but without the long stasis period which would be unwarranted with your planned cycle. Spend 6 weeks coming off and probably add his cream during that time and you should have a awesome recovery without a crash or worsening overall health.
If you stick without a taper, then I would run the Winstrol 2 weeks past your last shot and right up to PCT.
Drop the Arimidex dose by at least half: really if you ever need more than .5mg/day you should consider a more effective i.e. stronger AI like Letrozole as 1mg offers very little benefit over .5mg. .25mg/day might be plenty, I’d probably run .25mg/day and .5mg on Hcg days though the timing is a bit arbitary the total dose would be a bit higher at 2.25mg/week as oppose to 1.75mg/week. If you are running liquid Arimidex I would shoot for .33mg/day simply because of what my numbers read at .25mg/day and 300mg/test - in other words something between .25mg-.5mg/day should be ideal, and you want your estrogen to remain within normal physiological ranges without raising too high (which they will without an AI - on anyone) and too low if you take too much, luckily Arimidex is somewhat self-limiting, though I hate saying that as it’s a bit too conclusive, it is for the most part true with sensable dosing.
Also run the AI 2 weeks past your last shot and then start the Nolvadex if you stay conventional. If you switch to a taper then simply taper off the AI over 3 weeks and your done. The Nolvadex dose looks good IMO as higher doses only protect against estrogen rather than offer more testosterone stimulation according to documented studies.
By the way, I donï¿½??t think you are a idiot at all. I commend your research into your cycle and appreciate that you are looking at several routes and ideas ï¿½?? that is not par for the course as most simply copy others and call it research. Well done and keep it up.
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great reply, thanks very much.
i was only going to run the adex because i read somewhere that you need it with HCG, and he recommended that dose!
Ok- i’m going to run a test prop only cycle. 150mg/EOD. for 8 weeks!
1/ would you recommend against HCG for this cycle?
2/ Nolva 10mg/ED is it as good as the 40/40/20/20 dose?