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HCG and Clomid for Fertility


#1

Been on 100mg of test cyp for 3 years and started 250iu of HCG EOD for 3 months. Went to see a fertility doctor and told me I should stop test cyp and start 50mg of clomid EOD along with the HCG. However he recommended that I take 10,000 iu of HCG at one time to kick start and then taper down to 5,000 and then back to 250iu EOD Any truth to this amount of dose initially? In the mean time I will be getting a baseline lab of my sperm count and quality in the next few days.


#2

Hi dose hCG or SERM’s must be avoided and never combined or stacked SERMs.

You did T for 3 years without a SERM or hCG and your testes shrunk and now sperm count is low or ZERO?

You have been on hCG for 3 months now and what has happened?

Doc recommended all of that without a known sperm count? Seems insane.

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#3

Nothing to say without more data…

how is your sperm count exam? How are the characteristics of sperm? That should be in your exam, without that, we can not tell you what to do … your doctor asked for a spmogram?

I’ve been ON fire for almost 4 years, and I did 10 milion at my sperm count, In fact, 2 spermograms with almost the same quantities, with distance of 20 days between them. Considering that I have been using exactly the same things for 2 years in a row, my doctor said that I do not have to do anything to have a child because I am fertile. But this is my genetics, I’m producing a good amount with no HCG, no SERMs, no nothing…

show us more facts, we need more data


#4

I got my semen analysis back and the sperm count is ZERO. In the past several weeks, I have reduced my test cypionate dose to 80mg/week and continued on with 250 iu of HCG EOD in preparation of coming off of test cypionate.
The doctor recommended that I stop test cypionate and start Clomid at 50mg EOD. What do you recommend in my case? Should I start Clomid at this dose and frequency and taper off of the test cypionate or stop test cyp. completely? How long does it typically take to get to at least 20 million sperm count or for it to start generating?