I have used Havoc several times and had great results with proper pct. Low and behold I went to find some to get ready for another round and it is gone everywhere I looked!!! I am real picky about not taking supps I have not taken before. I read the ph thread, man some good info, wish I would have had that years ago!
Basically does anyone have any idea of where some havoc may be laying or an ok equivilent. I see the epistane clones, waste of money or real deal? I am mainly looking for strength gains, but I could be do for a good hypertrophy based program if that is the best ph mix I can find. Help please, thank you, and have a great Christmas!