Ok so heres the deal im going to go on H-drol and would like an opinion about my chosen post-cycle
Me: Im 21 5’9 185-190lbs study Human Kinetics so i understand what im doing
Stats
Bench: 290
Squat: 360
Deadlift: 425
I will be taking 50mg of H-drol for 4 weeks.
2 weeks prior i will begin supplementing with NAC for Liver protection, hawthorn berry for heart and super dosing fishoil for cholesterol control. Im looking for dosing protocols for the NAC and Hawthorn.
I will use these supps throughout my cycle and post cycle. For my PCT i have decided upon Aabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support as i feel this covers the bases of a mild PH like H-drol.
Any thoughts?
CEL Clone
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4- diene-3-17b-diol
hmm that looks different than the first batch. personally i wouldnt take any type of halodrol. if your stuck on a PH why dont you try HAVOC or SUS500 if you can still find it. or PHERA-MASS.
Either way you really need to grab some legit noLvadex for PCT
You PCT is this?
Trans-Resveratrol 50% 1200 mg
Quercetin 95% 1200
Horny Goat Weed 20% Icariin 500 mg
Piperine 95% 30mg
Even the product says Post Cycle SUPPORT.
Nothing but rice flour and ground monkey balls in that clone. Id give their m-drol a go instead of the h-drol. To jump on the bandwagon you need a SERM for your PCT not some OTC wannabe.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
nothing but rice flour and ground monkey balls in that clone. Id give their m-drol a go instead of the h-drol. To jump on the bandwagon you need a SERM for your PCT not some OTC wannabe. [/quote]
GrowingBoy, I assume you’re referring to Reversitol as being the monkey balls?
CEL H-Drol is one of the best Halodrol Clones available.
In addition, while I don’t know anything about the potency of CEL’s M-Drol, I think OP wants something more mild than a Superdrol Clone.
The reason im asking is because i have read many logs where people have used the anabolic inovations products and their blood work turned out fine. Nolvadex has problems of its own in terms of harshness on your body. I would also be adding a trib stack to the PCT.
And yes i have heard good things about the CEL h-drol clone so this is why im chosing to use it. i would like something mild and which will not increase my body weight by much as i must keep my weight down to compete in powerlifting within the next year.
Also would the anabolic extreme PCT product be a better option?
[quote]musclemission wrote:
Also would the anabolic extreme PCT product be a better option?[/quote]
Err… Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) would be the better option.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
musclemission wrote:
Also would the anabolic extreme PCT product be a better option?
Err… Nolvadex (Tamoxifen) would be the better option.[/quote]
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[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
nothing but rice flour and ground monkey balls in that clone. Id give their m-drol a go instead of the h-drol. To jump on the bandwagon you need a SERM for your PCT not some OTC wannabe.
GrowingBoy, I assume you’re referring to Reversitol as being the monkey balls?
CEL H-Drol is one of the best Halodrol Clones available.
In addition, while I don’t know anything about the potency of CEL’s M-Drol, I think OP wants something more mild than a Superdrol Clone.[/quote]
I should of said, “In my experience h-drol is ground monkey balls and rice flour” It didn’t do a god damned thing for me. OP you need a real PCT with Nolva. If it doesn’t say tamoxifen citrate 10mg in the Drug facts list its not what you’re looking for. If sourcing it is a problem a PM will be sent to you on my behalf. As for M-drol potency Kay it got me real swole bro! Sorry, seriously now, its basically a somewhat legally attainable oral steroid. All the sides and the gains. It does everything that some of the websites distributing the stuff claim it wont do.
[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
kayveeay wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
nothing but rice flour and ground monkey balls in that clone. Id give their m-drol a go instead of the h-drol. To jump on the bandwagon you need a SERM for your PCT not some OTC wannabe.
GrowingBoy, I assume you’re referring to Reversitol as being the monkey balls?
CEL H-Drol is one of the best Halodrol Clones available.
In addition, while I don’t know anything about the potency of CEL’s M-Drol, I think OP wants something more mild than a Superdrol Clone.
I should of said, “In my experience h-drol is ground monkey balls and rice flour” It didn’t do a god damned thing for me. OP you need a real PCT with Nolva. If it doesn’t say tamoxifen citrate 10mg in the Drug facts list its not what you’re looking for. If sourcing it is a problem a PM will be sent to you on my behalf. As for M-drol potency Kay it got me real swole bro! Sorry, seriously now, its basically a somewhat legally attainable oral steroid. All the sides and the gains. It does everything that some of the websites distributing the stuff claim it wont do. [/quote]
Oh no lol, I wasn’t implying that Mdrol by CEL was no good, just saying I can’t personally vouch for it, whereas CEL’s Hdrol I can.
And Mdrol/superdorl is certainly gonna get ya swole, fuck i used it too lol, but OP doesn’t want something strong he said.
[quote]musclemission wrote:
this covers the bases of a mild PH like H-drol.
Any thoughts?[/quote]
I just re-read your original post and realized something.
H-Drol is not a mild PH, it’s a designer steroid. It’s more mild than superdrol or pheraplex, but it’s still a DS. You WILL need tamoxifen.
H-drol is a version of Epistane.
ok, i am going to try and source some Nolva i think i know someone who can get it.
If i do have Nolva as my pct will i still need the ai post cycle support or will my nac, hawthorn, fishoil be my only other requirements? I still need some help with dosing protocols for all of these compounds including the Nolva.
I appreciate this guys
[quote]musclemission wrote:
ok, i am going to try and source some Nolva i think i know someone who can get it.
If i do have Nolva as my pct will i still need the ai post cycle support or will my nac, hawthorn, fishoil be my only other requirements? I still need some help with dosing protocols for all of these compounds including the Nolva.
I appreciate this guys[/quote]
Sigh. I don’t think any PH or AAS is for you. If you’re asking about needing Cycle SUPPORT with POST CYCLE THERAPY, you need to do a bit more study.
Guys, can anyone tell me the difference between the ploydehydrogenated, polyhydroxylated halomethetioallocholane and the 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol versions of H-Drol? Isn’t the first one the original version as put out by Gaspari Nutrition?
In your opinion, which is the superior version?
Thanks,
Crowbar
[quote]Game_over wrote:
…hmm that looks different than the first batch. …[/quote]
its not. Culver concepts chlorodrol50 and CEL H-DROL run the same exact formula…
[quote]crowbar46 wrote:
… ploydehydrogenated, polyhydroxylated halomethetioallocholane and the 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol versions of H-Drol? Isn’t the first one the original version as put out by Gaspari Nutrition?
Crowbar[/quote]
4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol
this is the original-50 formula put out by gaspari nutrition… CELS H-DROL is a great product
EDIT: my apologie… diddnt realize formula listed did not include dmt… THE origional Haldorol 50 had dmt in it… but no one will ever know like exactly how much
Did a little research: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol is actually the same compound as ploydehydrogenated, polyhydroxylated halomethetioallocholane.
As far as the original Halodrol-50 by Gaspari goes, what I could find indicates that they were being pressured to take it off the market because it so closely resembled oral turinabol; however, the actual compound has never been declared illegal (I’m SURE this will change soon).
As far as I can assertain, Gaspari merely did a cost-benefit analysis and decided to voluntarily withdrawl Halodrol-50 from the market. They are a large popular company that markets a lot of products to the “mainstream” sport supplement market.
Why risk the feds coming down on you over a product that, while popular, appealed to a more narrow range of users? This is similar to Biotest voluntarily withdrawing its T-2 product from the market because they were getting pressure over selling an actual thyroid hormone (which, by the way, is also still legal–if you can find a company making it).
Thus, real, or original, Halodrol-50 is apparently still available.
As far as the original Halodrol-50 containing anything other than the above stated compound, I haven’t been able to find any info on this. I can’t find a copy of the original product ingrediant panel.
So, Swurvenm, what exactly is “DMT”?
Crowbar
Update, DMT–otherwise known as Desoxymethyltestosterone became illegal on june 24th, 2008. So, if this was part of the original Halodrol-50 formula it would not have affected its removal from the market. This confirms that the decision to stop production of the original Halodrol-50 by Gaspari was a voluntary one, as the other ingredient, 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1,4-diene-3-17b-diol (or ploydehydrogenated, polyhydroxylated halomethetioallocholane)is stll legal.
How much the exclusion of DMT from the current versions (if, indeed, it was in the original) affects potency I have no idea. I do know that I have read consistently very positive reviews of the current versions.
Anyway, I’ve just started a cycle of 50 mg./day Halodrol-50, 60 mg./day Trenadrol. I’ll let you know how it goes.
Crowbar