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Gynecomastia


#1

I finished an M-sten cycle 3 weeks ago, and the past 2 days (Since getting over a 4-day illness) I have pretty harsh breast pain. Help?
I can't afford estrogen blocker...wondering what I can do or if there's a cheap herbal remedy

I thought it wouldn't happen because "M-Sten doesn't turn into estrogen" even though it DOES stimulate an estrogen response, which wasn't told to me.


#2

Nolva ASAP… 20mg Every day for 4-5 weeks… Research chemicals whatever you gotta do. Ask your parents for some cash. Beg the bank for a loan… Your very manhood is at stake here !!! Whore yourself out for Christ sake. And then never take prohormones again

-Ross


#3

Thank you. I’m not planning on ever doing another cycle again. I’m not even a bodybuilder, I was just sick and tired of big burly dudes getting to pick me up and pin me against a wall and tell me what a piece of sh** I am, because it’s been going on my entire life.

I’m autistic, which basically means I have very poor hand eye coordination, which makes practicing martial arts pretty much impossible. I’ve been to psychiatric hospitals multiple times (for threatening to shoot **** up, usually after losing a fight that the other guy started), so concealed carry is illegal for me.

I couldn’t find a single martial arts instructor who had the patience to instruct me. They all think that I’m “not trying” and that I’m not taking them seriously. I am though. It’s just that I’m autistic, so it takes longer for me to learn.

I’m 27 years old. How am I supposed to have a wife or kids one day and protect them, if I can’t even protect myself? I live in a pretty crappy neighborhood, so “not getting into fights” isn’t an option. If you step outside every day for a year, someone WILL fight you eventually.

I don’t know where to go for help on this matter. Please realize it’s really embarrassing having to reveal my personal problem here to a stranger, but I don’t know where else to go. I’ve even felt suicidal and homicidal over this problem. I go to a psychiatrist and a therapist and take medication, but that still doesn’t solve the problem.


#4

[quote]Ross_AlanUSN10 wrote:
Nolva ASAP… 20mg Every day for 4-5 weeks… Research chemicals whatever you gotta do. Ask your parents for some cash. Beg the bank for a loan… Your very manhood is at stake here !!! Whore yourself out for Christ sake. And then never take prohormones again

-Ross[/quote]

“Your manhood is at stake” “whore yourself” LOL! Fuck dignity i guess


#5

Hang around different people…


#6

Did you get other symptoms like itchiness, erect nipples and swelling, before you got the breast pain?
Msten is an oral anabolic steroid. No matter what any one tells you about non aromatising agents, you always want to have an aromatase inhibitor on hand,people can react differently to the same drug. Always do a PCT with nolva or clomid as well.
4 weeks and on your first cycle isn’t long so its unlikely much if any real damage was done. If you do another cycle wait until you can also afford the ancillaries.

Did you notice much in the way of positive gains, strength musclemass etc?
All msten did for me was a small increase in size and massively sore throbbing balls so I don’t want to touch that stuff ever again, if I can help it.