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Gynecomastia - Options?


#1

So this is my first post but have some questions. I recently have lost almost 60 pounds and am starting a cycle of test-e. I know your PCT is to prevent the start of gyno "bitch tits" but what if you already have slight bitch tits due to the weight loss. I am 5'8" tall and currently weigh 230. My bf is guessed at about 22%. I lifted weights for several years consistantly but have always hated cardio until the last 8 months which is when I started losing weight so fast.

I purchased Nolva for my PCT but am wondering if there is anything I can do to clean up the bitch tits?


#2

Some would suggest looking at the Letro protocol in the stickies..

You should always use an AI in any cycle that contains aromatizable aas though.


#3

Surgery is probably your best option.


#4

Go to the doctor and have this diagnosed as gyno first so you can be sure. If you have Gyno the only viable option is surgery.

If you are starting a cycle you should be using AI anyway, this will stop existing gyno worsening, or stop it developing in the first place if you don't have it.

22% BF is quite high so if you are prone to storing fat on your chest it may be difficult to distinguish whether your problem is just fat or actual gyno.


#5

Thanks guys for the info


#6

Some people have had success with 4-6 week cycles at moderate doses of Epistane, as it is a steroidal compound that was originally designed to treat breast cancer, it was later found to have success treating gyno. Epistane is the drug's orally available version.

Studies:
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/4/1/65.abstract
http://jjco.oxfordjournals.org/content/3/2/99.abstract

The thing to remember is that these studies lasted eight weeks, much longer than a recommended Epistane cycle. However, the results are extremely encouraging.


#7

Pct is not to prevent the start of gyno. You need to do more research.

22% is too fat to begin a cycle. Im not sure why you think its a good idea to start a cycle at this point. You arent ready imo, physically and knowledge wise. Can you explain why you think startinf a cycle at 22% bf is a good idea?

Also what are some lifting numbers.


#8

Sounds more like your BF is too high and with losing the weight you have the apperance of gyno. Are your nipples tender or itchy, do you have a lump or mass you can feel? I know a lot of guys who just have "puffy" nipples unless they carry low bf %. They need to be in single digits before the puffiness goes away.

I also agree with Bonez, starting a cycle at 22% bf is asking for trouble. I heard someone on here once say " you should start using AAS when you look like you use AAS" or something to that effect.