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I’m buying this. Anyone have any educated opinions on this particular firearm?

also feel free to post your own pics.

Hand guns are boring unless you want to keep it under your bed in case the boogy man comes in your window. But if you want to shoot anything further then 20meters get yourself a rifle.

Other than that a decent firearm used by both police and the military pretty soild and looks good. I have never seen a silver one before. Pretty sure its about 1kg unloaded and comes with a 12 or 15 round magazine depending on what you use. Personally I would go for the 12 as the extra weight on a fire arm is never a good thing.

i’m not even sure what kind of pistol that is.

what caliber is it?

9mm

It’s eastern European I am pretty sure I got to play with one when I was posted to Germany either the Russians or Czechs use it and I am leaning to the Czech Republic. Well they did in 2002 when i was there.

Do they allow fully autos in the states because that is a fully auto hand gun and it comes in a sub machine gun type as well

That’s a Czech 9x19mm CZ DA 75B with a Satin Nickel finish (I’m not a fan of the shinyness). The standard model 75 is regarded as one of the best combat pistols out there and is carried by the Czech police, as well as many police departements around the world.

The 75B’s sold at US markets come with 16 round mags.

It’s a good gun, but make sure it fits well into your hand and is comfortable to handle before purchasing.

Get this if you can, it’s only 100USD more. :slight_smile:

http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=73

I actually don’t like the smaller version its not as pretty!

The biger version in black is hot

OP, what kind of use are you planning for it? Concealed carry, target practise, home defence, etc…?

The great thing about the model “B” especially is the safety it offers… It has a firing pin lock that is linked to the trigger mechanism. The system won’t allow the weapon to fire by blocking the firing pin untill the trigger is fully pulled back.

If I had the option for CCW, the compact model 75 in .40SW looks great.

http://www.cz-usa.com/product_detail.php?id=63

sorry i just had to say something … sorry but anyone who says extra weight on a handgun is never a good thing doesnt know what theyre talking about…

extra weight on a handgun = good… because it helps with recoil.

Dont worry about weight worry about what your using it for… that determines what size, what caliber, whether u put any neat doohickys on it…

if u need it for concealed carry, keep it small and slim, dont go above 40 cal or it will be out of control (although accuracy doesnt matter if its self defense because 90 percent of the time the attacker’s in your face)

if your getting it for duty carry (which im sure your not) then you take into account that you want 40 cal or higher (most departments wont allow above 45 cal) But yeah, so in a man stopper hand gun you want extra weight, plus u can put flash lights and shit on it as long as u have the holster for it.

if your getting it for shits and giggles (target practice) then go for whatever floats your boat… but the higher cal the longer barrel and more weight you want to help with the recoil since this gun isnt for life taking and just for fun.

If you can not handle the recoil you shouldn’t be firing the weapon period (recoil on a 9mm plz) and if you need all the extra safety options with a fire arm you shouldn’t have one either because they arnt full proof and often don’t do what they are meant to do. The Aus f88 styer is a perfect example of that weapons are often made with shit parts and never trust them once you do they bite you.

actually I’ve fired 9mm’s pistols that recoiled more than 40 cal’s because the 9mm is a high velocity round. Case in point, M9 Berreta’s we used in the academy kicked a hell of a lot more than my Walther 40 cal, and my duty gun which is a Sig 40 cal. And making statements like if you cant handle a 9 mm please… do you really want to pull out our cocks to see whos is bigger?? seriously making macho statements like that is retarded… why have a 9mm that is light when u can have one thats heavy… even if it doesnt recoil much i want the gun that has the least recoil because that means i can stay on target and get more lead down range faster and more accurately.

If he wants to buy a piece of shit for target practice then no big deal, if hes using it for duty, or for personal protection then yeah go with something well made and spend the extra 400-500 dollars. Again that was the point of my original statement about it depends on what you intend to do with it.

This thread is fast progressing to full on retard.

[quote]mavrcksurfer69 wrote:
actually I’ve fired 9mm’s pistols that recoiled more than 40 cal’s because the 9mm is a high velocity round. Case in point, M9 Berreta’s we used in the academy kicked a hell of a lot more than my Walther 40 cal, and my duty gun which is a Sig 40 cal. And making statements like if you cant handle a 9 mm please… do you really want to pull out our cocks to see whos is bigger?? seriously making macho statements like that is retarded… why have a 9mm that is light when u can have one thats heavy… even if it doesnt recoil much i want the gun that has the least recoil because that means i can stay on target and get more lead down range faster and more accurately.

If he wants to buy a piece of shit for target practice then no big deal, if hes using it for duty, or for personal protection then yeah go with something well made and spend the extra 400-500 dollars. Again that was the point of my original statement about it depends on what you intend to do with it. [/quote]

Did they teach you to take everything to heart at the academy?
I’m not going to argue with any one but my rules with firearms are keep it simple, if you can’t handle the recoil that weapon isnt for you when some one is shooting back at you will you find out. Do they shoot back at you at the academy? (hehe bite go on)

(hehe bite go on) lol

I still love you I kinda wish this stuff was legal in aus but the cons out way the pros! I’ll just have to go gun mad when I move to the states next year.

lol stick to the south east… just about everythings legal here short of rpg’s. Some states are gay like California and pretty much outlaw everything, but in Florida if you’ve got 300-500 bucks you can go out and pick up an AK same day, nothing special needed.

wow you can get high powered rifles as well I didn’t know that I thought it was hand guns and well hand guns are like watching porn, they get you hard but its not as good as the real thing.

You clearly have never shot a handgun. A few things…
Mvrcksurfer: “Dont worry about weight”
not true. If you’re carrying concealed you want it to be light and typically smaller because it limits your ROM and/or prints easier if it’s too big. You also say don’t go above .40 cal but that’s also purely individual. I personally carry a .357 sig which is a .40 cal necked down to a 9mm bullet. about 125 gr going 1350 fps compared to a .40 cal 165gr at maybe 1000fps if you’re lucky. The recoil on it is heavier, but I can stay on target well and put a lot of lead downrange in a short time. I’m also pretty proficient with a .45 acp but not near as much as the sig. Back to my original point: it’s all purely relative. You have to find what works best for yourself and what your planned use is.

To the OP I would say if you’re not looking for home/personal defense, or can’t handle a ton of recoil, then that would be an alright gun. If you’re looking for either of the above, then go to a range that rents handguns and try out several calibers, see what works best. Personally, I would say a fullsize 1911 .45 acp from para ordinance would be your best bet for home defense, and a subcompact or a compact size glock, sig sauer, kimber, or H&K would be your best bet. All are very reliable but kind of pricey.