Gun Love II


My issued weapon for the past two years is the LWRC M6. Excellent weapon that has performed in some very filthy environments, easy maintenance, maneuverable in tight situations ( vehicles/room clearing) and supremely controllable for short full auto bursts.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

This should be the thread theme song…

[quote]pat wrote:
It’s a CMD isn’t it?
You’re going to fucking love this gun. If it’s sighted in well it’s a can’t miss gun. It will make you look like a better shot than you are.
I’m not making a slight on your shooting, just sharing my experience. I am a pretty average shot, but the SR1911 makes me look like a much better shot than I am.
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Yes, it’s the CMD. I love this pistol, with all my heart. I’m pretty pissed as the hammer is already starting to rust…

But you are understating the accuracy of this firearm, lol. I’m not offended at all, and I’m a much better shot with it than my G17. I still have my same mechanical issues, but this pistol is dead balls accurate.

Just loaded up a 100 rounds last night for Friday (hopefully.)


Took a break this afternoon and worked on some drills at the range. First time practicing from concealment in awhile and I needed the work. About 50-60 reps of a failure drill from 7-10 yards. Started with a 4 second par time then worked down to 3. Final runs were about 2.6 (1.7 draw/ .4 / .5), not as consistent as I would have liked, but the final run was clean. I’ve been shooting more 9 and the final shot I was jerking the gun and pulling a lot of the head shots low from not being used to the recoil. Took awhile for me to cut that out. Shot with a Glock 23 from appendix with a button front cover garment. A lot of work to do, but happy with that session.

Also saw an open carrier at the gas station on the way home. I was able to get way inside his personal space, like right next to him with my hip right next to his gun. I could have stuck my finger out and it would have poked him in the butt cheek. I was staring at his face to try and see if he would acknowledge me, but his hands were clasped in front of him, shoulders hunched forward, head down, looking at me through the side of his eye. He was carrying at 5 o’ clock, not to far from the center line of his back and there’s no way he would have got to his gun had I been a “threat”. Bersa 9mm in a Fobus holster. The cash station was not crowded and my behavior was abnormal but I didn’t want to really act too threatening just wanted to see what he would do if I got near his gun and I could have snatched it from him in a second.

^Good stuff man. I have the same issue as you, I have a tendency to jerk the trigger and hit low left when I rev up the speed. Very practical drill though and what I’ve been striving to do more of. Fast AND accurate which takes more skill and practice than someone might think.

[quote]idaho wrote:
My issued weapon for the past two years is the LWRC M6. Excellent weapon that has performed in some very filthy environments, easy maintenance, maneuverable in tight situations ( vehicles/room clearing) and supremely controllable for short full auto bursts.

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Very nice setup there. Just out of curiosity what agency are you in if you don’t mind sharing? No problem if you don’t.

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:
My issued weapon for the past two years is the LWRC M6. Excellent weapon that has performed in some very filthy environments, easy maintenance, maneuverable in tight situations ( vehicles/room clearing) and supremely controllable for short full auto bursts.

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Very nice setup there. Just out of curiosity what agency are you in if you don’t mind sharing? No problem if you don’t.[/quote]

No problem. I dont wish to sound vague, but, I have to keep my TS clearance or I will not have money to eat. Currently assigned to an intelligence unit that has all the members of the alphabet. Sounds sexy, but it just a lot frustrating work in a shitty environment.

You have any experience or know someone who has experience with the Mossberg MVP LC rifle? No one in my AO has even seen one. Thanks.

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:
My issued weapon for the past two years is the LWRC M6. Excellent weapon that has performed in some very filthy environments, easy maintenance, maneuverable in tight situations ( vehicles/room clearing) and supremely controllable for short full auto bursts.

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Very nice setup there. Just out of curiosity what agency are you in if you don’t mind sharing? No problem if you don’t.[/quote]

No problem. I dont wish to sound vague, but, I have to keep my TS clearance or I will not have money to eat. Currently assigned to an intelligence unit that has all the members of the alphabet. Sounds sexy, but it just a lot frustrating work in a shitty environment.

You have any experience or know someone who has experience with the Mossberg MVP LC rifle? No one in my AO has even seen one. Thanks.
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I have an MVP but not that model. I have this one in 5.56
http://www.mossberg.com/product/rifles-bolt-action-centerfire-mvp-series-mvp-predator-mvp-predator-20-sporter-barrel-scope-0

It’s more accurate than I am, and I love the trigger. The fact it uses AR mags is very handy, and it has my 69 grain Nosler’s over H335 at sub MOA if I do my part. For the $500 I got it for, I’m not going to ever complain.

I wouldn’t pay too much more for a Mossberg thought, personally. They don’t have a following like a Savage or Remington and aftermarket is small. I hear bad things about their customer service, but my rifle didn’t need it. I was a touch over MOA with shitty Lake City 55g’s out of the box with the shit glass it came with.

Their is a Mossberg MVP forum, whom basically claim the LC came from one of their posters basically making the rifle first lol, from his MVP.

Some people dont’ like the rifle, I do. The bolt is stiff, and you need to ride the thing. If you pussy foot it, it wont’ strip a round, and people are concerned about the flapper that allows the use of AR mags, but… It has held up fine the first 400-500 rounds.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]idaho wrote:
My issued weapon for the past two years is the LWRC M6. Excellent weapon that has performed in some very filthy environments, easy maintenance, maneuverable in tight situations ( vehicles/room clearing) and supremely controllable for short full auto bursts.

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Very nice setup there. Just out of curiosity what agency are you in if you don’t mind sharing? No problem if you don’t.[/quote]

No problem. I dont wish to sound vague, but, I have to keep my TS clearance or I will not have money to eat. Currently assigned to an intelligence unit that has all the members of the alphabet. Sounds sexy, but it just a lot frustrating work in a shitty environment.

You have any experience or know someone who has experience with the Mossberg MVP LC rifle? No one in my AO has even seen one. Thanks.
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I have an MVP but not that model. I have this one in 5.56
http://www.mossberg.com/product/rifles-bolt-action-centerfire-mvp-series-mvp-predator-mvp-predator-20-sporter-barrel-scope-0

It’s more accurate than I am, and I love the trigger. The fact it uses AR mags is very handy, and it has my 69 grain Nosler’s over H335 at sub MOA if I do my part. For the $500 I got it for, I’m not going to ever complain.

I wouldn’t pay too much more for a Mossberg thought, personally. They don’t have a following like a Savage or Remington and aftermarket is small. I hear bad things about their customer service, but my rifle didn’t need it. I was a touch over MOA with shitty Lake City 55g’s out of the box with the shit glass it came with.

Their is a Mossberg MVP forum, whom basically claim the LC came from one of their posters basically making the rifle first lol, from his MVP.

Some people dont’ like the rifle, I do. The bolt is stiff, and you need to ride the thing. If you pussy foot it, it wont’ strip a round, and people are concerned about the flapper that allows the use of AR mags, but… It has held up fine the first 400-500 rounds. [/quote]

Thank you very much for the information. I am currently in a remote location and the only news is from the web and (no disrespect) but lot of “gun forums” tend to lack a solid degree of professionalism. Thanks again.

[quote]idaho wrote:

Thank you very much for the information. I am currently in a remote location and the only news is from the web and (no disrespect) but lot of “gun forums” tend to lack a solid degree of professionalism. Thanks again.
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There is a decent number of people who don’t like it. I’m not going to lie. I’m not the most experienced either. So take it all with a grain of salt.

But I feel like some of the people who don’t like it are doing the foolowing:

  1. Ford v Chevy debate. It seems like people don’t like it because it isn’t a Savage, or isn’t a Remington, not because the rifle itself is bad on a whole. This irritates the living shit out of me.

  2. People who’ve never shot it, claiming it isn’t accurate because they heard once Mossberg isn’t accurate. Much like the MINI14 getting labeled as “minute of barn” because of the pencil barrels of the 1980’s, and no one basing it on the new models with a thicker barrel and improved accuracy.

  3. People who actually don’t like the fit/finish or function of the rifle. I’ll take these reviews serious. Some dude in a dick measureing contest that says “well my wife like it, we ran a 1,000 rounds through it and she said it sucks so we traded it. It’s a piece of shit because the flapper and stiff bolt,” isn’t a review. It ignores the fact he had zero issues with the flapper after 1,000 rounds, and obviously enjoyed it enough to shoot a 1,000 rounds through it. No one who doesn’t like a gun sticks with it for a 1,000 rounds, that an absurd concept that I refuse to believe. However if he had said “I’m concerned about the flapper and will wait the design out a decade to see fi there are issues, and finish is a little unprofessional, coupled with the stock is awkward for my build, we sold it after about 3 range trips, a couple hundred maybe 500 rounds.” I’d take that as a review.

I like the rifle so I’m biased in that I disagree with the negative reviews, but I don’t think demanding actual reason rather than “gut feels” for a bad review is terribly biased.

Like someone saying “Glocks suck, get an HK instead.” I won’t listen to them. Conversely “SR series is shit and cheap, all guns should be glocks.” Is also trash. But “I’m not a big fan of the glock trigger, and the HK is much more comfortable for me to shoot” and I’m listening.

So yeah, I basically long winded agreeing with what you are saying. There are plenty of people that like their Mossberg MVP’s and plenty that don’t. If it helps at all, I almost ordered one of their Patriot models last month but went with an SR1911 instead. The fact I’m willing to give Mossberg another 5-600 should mean something.

[quote]idaho wrote:

You have any experience or know someone who has experience with the Mossberg MVP LC rifle? No one in my AO has even seen one. Thanks.

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What’s the application? Work or play?

It looks like it’s just a Mossberg in an MDT LSS chassis (MDT LSS Chassis for bolt action rifles such as Remington, Savage, Howa and Ruger American) modified to take AR mags as well.

Play. For a 16 year old living on a remote ranch, varmints, small game. Looks sexy but will help teach discipline of fire being a bolt and the cost seems reasonable. However, I may be way off base because I dont know crap about teenagers.

BTW: Thanks Countingbeans, appreciate the second response.

Some glockporn. Got this 19 used for $300. Added the sights and stippling. Really liking the sights so far.