GuineaPig’s Training Log - Hunt 300 Deadlift

Not sure if pulling elbows under the bar is a useful cue cos them elbows are already pointing straight down at the ground lel

I get you, I just mean intention not direction. Hard to explain but looks like the arms are just losely hanging from the bar.

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So elbows tight to the body or elbows in towards each other / midline?

The amortization phase means the transition between the eccentric (plyometric) phase and the concentric (myometric) phase.

Who do you mean?

I think three training days per week are ideal for raw lifters.

In no case, if you are a powerlifter (raw!), don’t use touch&go. Always keep the pause in the amortization phase (the reasonable length of the pause is approximately 1.5 seconds).

The photo looks good. You need to realize that this is a habit. The longer you will do what I mentioned last week, the easier it will be. Maybe also be useful if you stretch more legs. Remember, the shorter the path of movement, the easier it’s entitlement for to the technique of the deadlift… You may need to improve hips flexibility if necessary… As for Belkin, I think he has the most beautiful technique of the sumo deadlift, so it’s good to learn and inspire.

I don’t write it only to you, but for the powerlifting you have a poor hypertrophy. You have to get muscles… It seems to me that you have a confusion in your training plan. You have to change the training mentality. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t mean badly it, but I’m just wrote constructive criticism.

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Shredded chicken with rice, beans, and some BBQ sauce is my got too. Also throw it in some curry,

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Where’d you get no touch and go for powerlifting purposes from? I can kind of see the rationale but on the forum I’ve heard for some guys like @chris_ottawa and @KennyCrox that some touch and go work should be to like develop the stretch reflex but the bulk of training is still comp pause style.

Hasn’t Sheiko said like you can pause the first rep and then touch and go? Doesn’t Sarychev train touch and go too?

So high volume and calorie surplus for hypertrophy…

How about what exercises? Are the powerlifts alone enough or good for hypertrophy or should I be doing variations or other exercises?

Yeah. I was on 2x per week for a while but just last week I moved towns and circumstances changed a bit so I am training 3x per week (I started last week)

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@gaelic obviously has his own ideas, I wouldn’t do what he’s doing but he is making some progress and his bench doesn’t suck either so take that for what it’s worth. I don’t see a compelling reason not to do any t&g work, and in fact only the opposite, but some people can’t be convinced. Kind of like Louie Simmons saying to only do box squats in training even if you lift raw.

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Glad the hammy is better. Grind on brother

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T&G can’t be used in the competition, so it’s useless.

You are not an Olympic athlete, you don’t need explosive strength, but raw (maximal) strength.

What you mentioned in connection with Sheiko was in the context of a problem with a pause in the amortization phase. In such cases, Sheiko recommends that a pause be made in the amortization phase at least at the first rep. In other cases Sheiko T&G or bouncing strongly refuses.

The top raw lifter means:

  1. Training according to rationally periodization.
  2. Eat adequate quantities of macro-nutrients and micro-nutrients.
  3. Sleep well.

And how long you train?

Ok…I’ll go with pausing all the reps.

I don’t know about that thinking though. Like good morning and other exercises Sheiko has for supplemental stuff can’t be used in competition but they aren’t useless.

I’m thinking of doing Sheiko 3 Days a week under 80kg because of what you’ve said and my friend was disappointed but pointed me to some spreadsheets.

While I have you here what kind of supplemental exercise for bench would be good for my weaknesses? If my biggest weakness is that I need more muscle what should I do in the supplemental part for bench press?

How long I train? Hmm I dunno. When it was 2x per week it was very long like 2.5hrs each but now with 3x per week it’s a bit faster like 1.5-2hr.

Mike Tuchscherer made the same argument a few years ago in an article title “Speed work doesn’t work”, but he has since changed his opinion. Unless your sticking point is right at your chest and either the bar goes up or doesn’t move at all then you would definitely benefit from more speed off the chest.

Just because something isn’t done in competition doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have any beneficial training effect. You don’t do multiple reps in competition and your attempts will usually be 90%+ of your max, but that doesn’t mean that you should train like the Bulgarian weightlifters did. I have never seen anything from Sheiko saying to pause every rep either.

Everything depends on the exact circumstances, Josh Bryant is one coach who recommends doing a good amount of touch & go reps but he has said that for some lifters (like James Strickland) he has them pause all their reps because they are so explosive and are handling massive weights which increases the risk of injury. So there are some cases where maybe some people shouldn’t do t&g, but that is the exception. One thing to remember though, nobody is arguing for bouncing the bar off your chest, the idea is to forcefully reverse the movement once it touches your chest.

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Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDcnnlOZg4c

Exactly

Basically pressing exercises that allow a full range of motion, maybe some isolation work on top of that. I got my bench to 300 without following any sort of periodized program (bodyweight was about 200). One day was bench, incline, dips, flys, the other day was close grip bench, OHP, dumbbell bench (I switched the order of these around every now and then) plus some tricep work. It was actually pretty similar to my current template.

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Don’t be angry, but I don’t like people who change fundamentally opinions in a short space.

Read it’s 16 tips for the bench press…

10th tip: “Do a competition pause on the first rep of each set, if you want to - pause on each rep.”

For example, about bouncing of the deadlift Sheiko writes this: “All of my athletes are forbidden to bounce the bar off the platform while deadlifting. Irrespective of whether they use sumo or conventional techniques. Why? Because during the moment when the bar is bouncing off the platform, the athlete momentarily looses control of the bar. And as mentioned earlier, the bar can bounce a few centimetres away from the athlete. This can shift the entire centre of balance towards the athletes toes. It is the purpose of every coach and athlete to train perfect form in a competitive movement to the point of automation. Because when the weight of the bar reaches 95% or greater, the athlete does not think about form but is solely focused on lifting the weight. How can you automate perfect form if the bar keeps bouncing of the platform, if you do not assume the starting position with every repetition? I can not imagine my athletes performing deadlifts with 80% for 4 sets of 8 repetitions. Bouncing of the bar must be completely excluded from the training process. But, this is only my professional opinion. This opinion may not necessarily be shared by other athletes and powerlifting specialists.

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The punctuation there is a bit weird, it sounds to me like he mean that you can pause all reps if you want to but definitely pause the first rep.

Here’s one for you: 11) Increase your result by using different variations of the bench press

The comparison to deadlifts doesn’t really make sense in this case since there is no stretch reflex involved when you pull one rep as you do in competition. I agree that t&g bench is less specific but it appears that it helps to train the stretch reflex which is beneficial.

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This advice is arguable and unnecessarily general.

First you have to a lot and well eat. Do it additional exercises for the bench press as a bodybuilder (lots of repetitions and always 5-6 sets).

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That’s from Sheiko’s article that you quoted

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Galec may be shecko…

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Mind blown