ok so you’re saying you use light weights on the snatch pull to avoid shoulder/upper back involvement…?
– i didnt say that. i said on the lighter weights while ramping
that sounds very strange to me! like i said, if you want to stimulate the hips more, then keep at it with the DS launch…
–thats not what i said either.
also, regarding the light weights, i presumed you were using CT’s layer system, which means you should be working to your max anyway,
which would recruit all the muscles needed for each lift… hell even my brachialis ache after snatch grip pulls lol…
–yep. my whole body aches after a pull session
the fact is that keeping the weights light
– never said that
and focusing on hip drive
–to practice proper form and not yank the bar, and fuck up my elbow again.
quick side note… if you like training with lighter weight
to build explosiveness in the hips, then maybe try broad jumps? 2 footed jumps, trying to jump as far forward as you can… these require no added resistance (initially), and can build up some power…
–good ideas. used to do lots of these about 30 something years ago
what are your goals if you don’t mind me asking?
– get strong, powerful, and look good. my wife likes it, and so do i. we like to stay “young”
by the way… thanks for the input…[/quote]
Wow… feel like a got flamed for no reason lol… didn’t mean to offend you or anything, just trying to help/ give you some options! I thought you mean you liked going light to focus on the hips but I obviously misread!
okay so what you meant was when the weight is light (when ramping), you don’t use your arms as much (because you hip drive is enough), which I understand, and I used to do that when training explosive pulls for sport (wasn’t really interested in lifting back then), but I quickly realised that by taking advantage of the light weight, you allow your WHOLE body to progress through the force spectrum and warm up /activate the CNS more efficiently… also better for technique to engage the same muscles for every set… obviously you said that you’ve been doing these lifts for years so i’m sure your technique is pretty damn good already.
Seriously though, I think your results on the layer system, speaking about high pulls here, will come quicker if you engage the same muscles/technique and progress through the force spectrum up to you max.
Last point; i think the layer system will definitely get you stronger, more powerful and look awesome! haha.