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Graphic Novels


#21

300 is an excellent graphic novel. Also, The Gunslinger


#22

Garth Ennis:
Preacher
Hitman
Saint Of Killers


#23

[quote]gregron wrote:
Sorry for the newb question but is a graphic novel the same as a comic book but with a fancier less childlike name?

Or is it something different?[/quote]

A graphic novel is essentially a comic book with a novel-length story. They are usually much higher quality as well(graphics, page material, plot).


#24

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Sorry for the newb question but is a graphic novel the same as a comic book but with a fancier less childlike name?

Or is it something different?[/quote]

A graphic novel is essentially a comic book with a novel-length story. They are usually much higher quality as well(graphics, page material, plot).[/quote]

Ok cool. So like a comic book and novel hybrid?


#25

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Sorry for the newb question but is a graphic novel the same as a comic book but with a fancier less childlike name?

Or is it something different?[/quote]

A graphic novel is essentially a comic book with a novel-length story. They are usually much higher quality as well(graphics, page material, plot).[/quote]

Ok cool. So like a comic book and novel hybrid?[/quote]

Yeah. Usually, it is still a frame by frame illustration. I have seen some where there is a bit more text as well as illustration mixed in.


#26

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:

[quote]gregron wrote:
Sorry for the newb question but is a graphic novel the same as a comic book but with a fancier less childlike name?

Or is it something different?[/quote]

A graphic novel is essentially a comic book with a novel-length story. They are usually much higher quality as well(graphics, page material, plot).[/quote]

Ok cool. So like a comic book and novel hybrid?[/quote]

Yeah. Usually, it is still a frame by frame illustration. I have seen some where there is a bit more text as well as illustration mixed in. [/quote]

Generally, I look at a graphic novel as a self contained story, The Crow for instance. It begins and ends with that one publication. However, these days, you can also include graphic novels that make use of characters from ongoing series, but outside of that world. Think of Brian Azzarello’s Joker.

These days, collected storylines come out so quickly as trades that they really fall under the “graphic novel” umbrella. Someone could pick up something like Going Sane which was a storyline in Legends of the Dark Knight and easily read it as a “one off” as any graphic novel is usually seen to be. Plus, a lot of graphic novels these days seem to be collected mini-series that perhaps didn’t get a wide audience ie Behold the Devil, one of Matt Wagner’s Grendel stories giving the appearance of a true graphic novel.


#27

100 bullets

Blacksad - amazing art, good storyline


#28

Just finished Saga, volume 1. Excellent read.


#29

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
Batman - The Long Halloween
Batman - Under the Red Hood
The Watchmen
Spawn Origins

Some really good ones that I have read. [/quote]

On the topic of Watchmen. I almost bought it at the bookstore the other night but would love for someone to answer this prior:

Will i enjoy it even though I watched that crappy movie attempt at it and know the ending? [/quote]

Yes.


#30

[quote]timbofirstblood wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
Batman - The Long Halloween
Batman - Under the Red Hood
The Watchmen
Spawn Origins

Some really good ones that I have read. [/quote]

On the topic of Watchmen. I almost bought it at the bookstore the other night but would love for someone to answer this prior:

Will i enjoy it even though I watched that crappy movie attempt at it and know the ending? [/quote]

Yes.[/quote]

Definitely agree. Plus, get V for Vendetta to go with it as they would make a nice combo to read. Nothing to do with one another, just two titles aimed at a more mature audience. And V is much much better than that movie. I won’t spoil it but they completely missed the point.


#31

[quote]MrZsasz wrote:

[quote]timbofirstblood wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Ripsaw3689 wrote:
Batman - The Long Halloween
Batman - Under the Red Hood
The Watchmen
Spawn Origins

Some really good ones that I have read. [/quote]

On the topic of Watchmen. I almost bought it at the bookstore the other night but would love for someone to answer this prior:

Will i enjoy it even though I watched that crappy movie attempt at it and know the ending? [/quote]

Yes.[/quote]

Definitely agree. Plus, get V for Vendetta to go with it as they would make a nice combo to read. Nothing to do with one another, just two titles aimed at a more mature audience. And V is much much better than that movie. I won’t spoil it but they completely missed the point.
[/quote]

Will have to grab V too, good thing is I never saw the movie.


#32

the Warrior Nun Areala graphic novels are great. pic is from one of them showing Areala and Avengelyne, a fallen angel that also has her own graphic novel series.
for all the Neil Gaiman fans try the Sandman graphic novels. also try Alien Legion and Void Indigo


#33

almost forgot the Glory graphic novels. half Amazon half Demon. they got the names over the wrong character.


#34

^ i dunno man. Pretty sure if my girlfriend saw me reading that after looking at the cover she would think it’s like anime porn or something and I would get another one of those ‘I dont understand Americans’ speech.


#35

[quote]Waittz wrote:
^ i dunno man. Pretty sure if my girlfriend saw me reading that after looking at the cover she would think it’s like anime porn or something and I would get another one of those ‘I dont understand Americans’ speech. [/quote]
tell her it’s just a nun. here she’s hanging out with her friend Razor. a nice girl with her own series.


#36

lol, I grew up on a lot of Manga but never really looked into or got into american comics for some reason.


#37

there’s always a guy that enjoys his work like Pitt. he fought the Hulk to a draw.


#38

So i finished Astonishing X-men…meh


#39

[quote]Waittz wrote:
So i finished Astonishing X-men…meh[/quote]
Look up anything by Alan Moore (Swamp thing, V for Vendetta, the league of extraordinary gentleman, From Hell (you should love this book)
Brian K Vaughn has really fun books, someone mentioned Saga already which is an ongoing, but Y the Last Man and Ex Machina are all great.
If you like off the wall stuff any Grant Morrison will be great. All Star Superman is a must read and I used to hate the character. His Arkham Asylum book is also amazing.
Sandman by Neil Gaiman is awesome, you can by the omnibus soon.
2000AD Judge Dredd Complete case files volume 1.
The first Ultimates is great by Mark Millar, skip all the Jeph Loeb crap.
Criminal is a good book, Fables, The Unwritten.
Also if superhero books are too campy look up old Vertigo and Max books from Marvel. Punisher Max is awesome. Old Vertigo Sandman’s Mystery Theater is great as well as the Sandman spinoff Lucifer is cool as well.


#40

[quote]Waittz wrote:
So i finished Astonishing X-men…meh[/quote]

You might be finding regular superhero life too tame or you haven’t got the connection with the characters like those who have been reading for decades.

If you want a more violent look at things, really check out The Boys. Satirical, funny, violent, lots of fun. Basically, The Boys police the Supes, who are controlled by one corporation. Can’t recommend this series enough.

Or you probably already know The Punisher but Garth Ennis(who wrote The Boys) defines the character to me. Violent, unrelenting, just a terrifying single minded guy.