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Got Wrong Order?!?!

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#1

I just picked up my latest (2nd) order. I was soooo happy that it made it considering all the crap that’s been going on.

My first order was Tren E. This one was for two sachets of Test E. I opened it up and, TO MY HORROR, I think it’s Tren E!! The packaging is EXACTLY the same as the tren and the product code equals tren.

Is there any way to verify what it is??? This ISN’T what I need. I now have a total of 60ML of tren and I’m not even going to use it anytime soon.

The funniest part of it all is that I just got $280 worth of the crap for free, yet I’m pissed!! Considering the monetary issue, should I tell my source or just place a new order?

Main thing though, I need to be sure what this stuff is.

#2

what colour is it? the oil.

#3

I haven’t opened up the sachets yet as I’ll be transferring into vials maybe tomorrow. The tren that I actually ordered last month is a light yellowish color. Exactly the same color as my test e from mexico. Have you ordered the sachets before? What color is supposed to be what? LOL

#4

I have not ordered tren from sachets or from anyplace but with brewing my own I know this

test comes out looking like a light clear color
tren ace using the exact same oil came out darker golden

there was a distinct difference

#5


Okay, here’s a pic stolen from 5.0.

His test is on the right. My mexican test is that color. My first order of tren e is that color.

The color would be dependent on the oil used, no? If not, are you saying that the first tren e batch I have is also questionable as it may be test???

#6

Hmm… the trouble with many UGL’s is that they use test at different dosages to replace other more ‘exotic’ drugs.

I have known low dose test to be sold at Deca, Primo… and obv. Methyl test sold as dianabol…

I am yet to use tren, but i know that it is often a golden colour… you are right in that it is partly a question of carrier, however, tren is so often this colour i suspect that it could be down to the powder too.

JMO

JJ

#7

ok as for the oil determining the color.
yes it does to an extent.

what I thought was weird was I used veg oil

plain old store bought wesson oil. filtered whatever

but aftewr the fact when I added my test it actually made the oil lighten in color from the golden yellow to an almost clear and the tren powder made it turn orange/gold

so I think it is more dose dependant on the color and the shades of the oil itself.

its really hard to tell wha tester it is actually
and now thatI think of it I have seen some tren 100 that looked like my test I didnt try it so I have no idea if it was legit tren though
it may not have been

I still think that if you get test and tren when you put them in vials you should be able to tell a difference

if not then I would think it may be slightly suspect

#8

[quote] Brook wrote:
tren is so often this colour i suspect that it could be down to the powder too.[/quote]

Color is based on the powder from what I am understanding.

Supposedly, the more golden forms of tren are conversions from fina. Pure tren powder is white and can yield clear gear depending on the oil. This relates to tren a but it should be accurate with tren e also, correct?

Nich, what are you using for your powder? Does that info make sense?

#9

[quote]Shadow Hunter36 wrote:
Brook wrote:
tren is so often this colour i suspect that it could be down to the powder too.

Color is based on the powder from what I am understanding.

Supposedly, the more golden forms of tren are conversions from fina. Pure tren powder is white and can yield clear gear depending on the oil. This relates to tren a but it should be accurate with tren e also, correct?

Nich, what are you using for your powder? Does that info make sense?[/quote]

Tren powder should have a yellow tint to it. Trenbolone will never be clear in oil, it may be lighter if oil is not used as the carrier.

The different colors of tren come from oxidization, as the hormone easily oxidizes when subjected to heat and from the different carriers used. The more oxidized, the darker it becomes.

#10

Yes, a trenbolone acetate solution will be canary yellow, much yellower than for example soybean oil is.

If you can acquire some Dianabol or Anadrol to go along with it, you should be very happy with this unintended substitution.

If using Anadrol as the stacking oral and TA as the main or only injectable, then an estrogen source is also needed as neither trenbolone nor oxymetholone aromatizes. Either HCG or a modest amount of added testosterone solves this.

(If using a lot of testosterone, then personally I wouldn’t go the Anadrol route.)

#11

Instead of all this speculation here, shouldn’t you just contact your source? If your sachet has the same product code and the oil is the same color, then I’d say there is a damn good chance that you are dealing with the same product. Maybe it is all plain old test. With the oil color you have described, there’s a pretty good chance of that, unfortunately.

Submit your “ticket” (I hate that crap, why don’t they just call it emailing, taking a “ticket” makes the customer feel like a number) and tell them the same things you have told us, along with product code number.

And look at things this way, if you are patient and you really did receive tren, then you just got free tren, which one of the most expensive AAS out there.

#12

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
If you can acquire some Dianabol or Anadrol to go along with it, you should be very happy with this unintended substitution.[/quote]

I hope you’re right. My Dbol and test is already on its way :slight_smile:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Instead of all this speculation here, shouldn’t you just contact your source?

you just got free tren, which one of the most expensive AAS out there[/quote]

See, that’s the problem. I’m a little worried that if they knew I got almost $300 for free they might not be too happy. I doubt they would want me to send it back. It might open me up to be selectively scammed my next order. Maybe I’m being paranoid, but that’s a lot of money to lose.

Either way, a few people have asked about the color on their forum. All things point to tren. I’ll pin it and pray for night sweats…lol…

#13

You are going to pin it with test, though, right?

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#15

Correct, it’s not my fault; it’s theirs. But still, something about all the potential scamming makes me think “don’t ask, don’t tell” :slight_smile:

Everyone here is telling me the color is different. But the guys on their forum say the color is okay. I should hopefully know real soon what’s what. I ordered test-e, prop and dbol. That should give me an idea of their packaging. So far I just know how they pack tren (or what I think is tren). Heaven forbid I get 60ML of what looks like tren again…lol. If it comes down to it I will ask them about it.

I haven’t figured doses yet, but this is what I think I will do when I pin it:

I’ll pin prop to get things going while I wait for the test e and tren e to kick in. That should hopefully buy me enough time to figure out if it’s really tren. If I think it’s actually test, then I drop the real test and add my dbol once the ‘test’ is flowing.

Something like that anyways. Need to think a bit more.

#16

If it’s trenbolone, then the taste will be very spicy.

#17

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
If it’s trenbolone, then the taste will be very spicy.[/quote]

Bill, you rock.

I absolutely love learning stuff like this.

Now I have to go compare the tastes of my test and tren.

#18

damnit Bill, where do you have all this knowledge locked away? Do you have a “Big Damn Book of Steroid Knowledge” you’re thinking about writing?

Please?

#19

Sorry, didn’t see your post till now.

Millard Baker (of Mesomorphosis) wanted me to write a book and would have published it if I did, but I didn’t care to. I don’t see a point in rewriting the same things already written; and there’s a saying “There are a lot of things that are new, and a lot of things that are true, but not many things that are both new and true.” There just wasn’t that much more to say.

There are a pretty good number of articles and Q&A’s I wrote on the Meso site.

I also had a ton of posts on the Testosterone forums but apparently they got wiped out.

I suppose there’s always odd facts such as the taste of trenbolone, but it is only someone bringing up something that illustrates a reason to bring that out; if simply writing a book or whatever I would never think to include that.

At some point one has beaten one’s head against the wall enough times on various points.

Anyway, for a steroid book people want pictures of lots of various counterfeits and lots of various real stuff, and I either can’t do that out of being unable to (don’t have any means to do so already in place) or if I were able to if I were determined to do it (don’t know till you try) I have absolutely zero interest in a project like that.

What could be worthwhile would be if I update the Meso articles for Millard – actually the number of changes I would make is very small and the points are minor but there are some things – but I don’t have his e-mail anymore and there’s no particular impetus to do it.

Just saying the same things again – no.