Good Job California!

Maximus when are you moving out of there?

What do you have a problem with?

Im guessing your saying that probably because this specific situation is being dealt with in a… “understandable” manner. The problem I have is how it has come to this.

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Im guessing your saying that probably because this specific situation is being dealt with in a… “understandable” manner. The problem I have is how is has come to this.[/quote]

3000/213 = $14 per week (that is how much the guy cost compared to the laid off employees). The mayor is cutting back on spending, which I happen to believe would benefit most of California if they followed his path. But, hiring a temporary spokesman (paid cash, no benefits) for 90 days to help with making communication effective (which I am sure will pay for itself, as we all know that when communication is slow bills tend to go up quickly) and outsourcing needed services to private companies and other governments who are more efficient then yours sounds like he did a win-win for the government and his town.

The Spokesman, I don’t understand why that was put into the article. He is getting paid the going rate. What do they want, an ineffective communications system and a second rate Spokesman? Or, would they be willing to pay what competition is asking for and fix part of their government that is lacking.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Im guessing your saying that probably because this specific situation is being dealt with in a… “understandable” manner. The problem I have is how is has come to this.[/quote]

3000/213 = $14 per week (that is how much the guy cost compared to the laid off employees). The mayor is cutting back on spending, which I happen to believe would benefit most of California if they followed his path. But, hiring a temporary spokesman (paid cash, no benefits) for 90 days to help with making communication effective (which I am sure will pay for itself, as we all know that when communication is slow bills tend to go up quickly) and outsourcing needed services to private companies and other governments who are more efficient then yours sounds like he did a win-win for the government and his town.

The Spokesman, I don’t understand why that was put into the article. He is getting paid the going rate. What do they want, an ineffective communications system and a second rate Spokesman? Or, would they be willing to pay what competition is asking for and fix part of their government that is lacking.[/quote]

Like I said above, the way they are handling this circumstance is actually proper. Thats good to see. But it disappointing that it has come to this. From what Im told by a friend of mine in northern Cali(who sent me this story), other cities across the state are on the brink of having drastic pay cuts and layoffs. Its just sad to see.

A laid off public worker committed suicide last week, just 2 hours after he received his layoff notice. He went to the roof and jumped. Very sad, and the unions are eating it up unfortunately.

The mayor is doing what must be done, because he lives in reality. The problem that happened in California, is that when the economy slowed down, the city continued it’s insane hiring of public workers. And along with that, are those juicy pensions. Well the glass tipped over, and it cannot be sustained. Costa Mesa laid off 45% of it’s public work force, and will contract out for it’s major services. It’s really shitty, but hey it’s what needed to be done.

Hey Farmerson, if you think that’s priceless, wait til you see what happens in November. 2 yrs ago, the taxes here were raised to the highest in the country (sales, income, property, car registration, and the child tax credit was completely removed too.) This upcoming June, those tax increases expire, and the governor either needs to extend them, or they drop down to the rate of 2 yrs ago. For him to extend them, he needs 4 Republicans to agree for it to be put on the ballot. But the Republicans are standing strong, and none are caving in. So the taxes here will drop to the rates from 2 yrs ago (fuck yeah!). In November, the governor can get the tax increase back on the ballot by collecting signatures (bypassing the 4 needed Republican votes altogether.) Well, what Governor Moonbeam doesn’t know, is that he has NO CHANCE IN HELL of that passing even if he gets it on the ballot. We voted down a 2 yr tax extension already, and he is going for a 5 yr extension. It was voted down 2 to 1. So when the vote fails, and he doesn’t get his tax increase, the governor will need to cut $29 Billion in spending.

Buckle up kiddies, I will be here front and center. When the shit pops off, Maximus will be there with his camera, and really loud voice, popping off at all the public worker goons who try to intimidate legislators. Please Santa, give Maxi an early Christmas gift. Let an SEIU douchebag get in my face talking shit.

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Im guessing your saying that probably because this specific situation is being dealt with in a… “understandable” manner. The problem I have is how is has come to this.[/quote]

3000/213 = $14 per week (that is how much the guy cost compared to the laid off employees). The mayor is cutting back on spending, which I happen to believe would benefit most of California if they followed his path. But, hiring a temporary spokesman (paid cash, no benefits) for 90 days to help with making communication effective (which I am sure will pay for itself, as we all know that when communication is slow bills tend to go up quickly) and outsourcing needed services to private companies and other governments who are more efficient then yours sounds like he did a win-win for the government and his town.

The Spokesman, I don’t understand why that was put into the article. He is getting paid the going rate. What do they want, an ineffective communications system and a second rate Spokesman? Or, would they be willing to pay what competition is asking for and fix part of their government that is lacking.[/quote]

Like I said above, the way they are handling this circumstance is actually proper. Thats good to see. But it disappointing that it has come to this. From what Im told by a friend of mine in northern Cali(who sent me this story), other cities across the state are on the brink of having drastic pay cuts and layoffs. Its just sad to see.[/quote]

I don’t get the guy jumping off the roof though. I mean is it really that bad that you got fired, there has to be a back story to this guy jumping. I don’t know many people (maintenance especially) jumping off roofs for being released from work. I could understand someone that has put immense blood, sweat, and pain – say a young gun marine who got say discharged from the military, who all he dreamed about since he was a child was being a marine…possibly. I wouldn’t say he’s justified, but I could understand it better.

Just doesn’t make sense.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
Im guessing your saying that probably because this specific situation is being dealt with in a… “understandable” manner. The problem I have is how is has come to this.[/quote]

3000/213 = $14 per week (that is how much the guy cost compared to the laid off employees). The mayor is cutting back on spending, which I happen to believe would benefit most of California if they followed his path. But, hiring a temporary spokesman (paid cash, no benefits) for 90 days to help with making communication effective (which I am sure will pay for itself, as we all know that when communication is slow bills tend to go up quickly) and outsourcing needed services to private companies and other governments who are more efficient then yours sounds like he did a win-win for the government and his town.

The Spokesman, I don’t understand why that was put into the article. He is getting paid the going rate. What do they want, an ineffective communications system and a second rate Spokesman? Or, would they be willing to pay what competition is asking for and fix part of their government that is lacking.[/quote]

Like I said above, the way they are handling this circumstance is actually proper. Thats good to see. But it disappointing that it has come to this. From what Im told by a friend of mine in northern Cali(who sent me this story), other cities across the state are on the brink of having drastic pay cuts and layoffs. Its just sad to see.[/quote]

I don’t get the guy jumping off the roof though. I mean is it really that bad that you got fired, there has to be a back story to this guy jumping. I don’t know many people (maintenance especially) jumping off roofs for being released from work. I could understand someone that has put immense blood, sweat, and pain – say a young gun marine who got say discharged from the military, who all he dreamed about since he was a child was being a marine…possibly. I wouldn’t say he’s justified, but I could understand it better.

Just doesn’t make sense.[/quote]

Ya I dont understand that either. He may have had underlying psychological issues or more was going on than just a lost job.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
A laid off public worker committed suicide last week, just 2 hours after he received his layoff notice. He went to the roof and jumped. Very sad, and the unions are eating it up unfortunately.

The mayor is doing what must be done, because he lives in reality. The problem that happened in California, is that when the economy slowed down, the city continued it’s insane hiring of public workers. And along with that, are those juicy pensions. Well the glass tipped over, and it cannot be sustained. Costa Mesa laid off 45% of it’s public work force, and will contract out for it’s major services. It’s really shitty, but hey it’s what needed to be done.

Hey Farmerson, if you think that’s priceless, wait til you see what happens in November. 2 yrs ago, the taxes here were raised to the highest in the country (sales, income, property, car registration, and the child tax credit was completely removed too.) This upcoming June, those tax increases expire, and the governor either needs to extend them, or they drop down to the rate of 2 yrs ago. For him to extend them, he needs 4 Republicans to agree for it to be put on the ballot. But the Republicans are standing strong, and none are caving in. So the taxes here will drop to the rates from 2 yrs ago (fuck yeah!). In November, the governor can get the tax increase back on the ballot by collecting signatures (bypassing the 4 needed Republican votes altogether.) Well, what Governor Moonbeam doesn’t know, is that he has NO CHANCE IN HELL of that passing even if he gets it on the ballot. We voted down a 2 yr tax extension already, and he is going for a 5 yr extension. It was voted down 2 to 1. So when the vote fails, and he doesn’t get his tax increase, the governor will need to cut $29 Billion in spending.

Buckle up kiddies, I will be here front and center. When the shit pops off, Maximus will be there with his camera, and really loud voice, popping off at all the public worker goons who try to intimidate legislators. Please Santa, give Maxi an early Christmas gift. Let an SEIU douchebag get in my face talking shit. [/quote]

Im honestly curious what will be of Cali in the future. They(the state gov) will either make themselves fall or will further plunge the natl. government into shit.


These are all symptomatic of a society entering a Great Depression – suicides, scape goatting, wishful thinking, mental dislocation.

The Fed is trying to fight reality. They’re hitting the panic button as you read this:

"This is a chart of the US monetary base. In simple terms, it charts how much money the Fed has pumped into the system (at least that it admits). So itâ??s a kind of visual of the Fed hitting the PANIC button: when the monetary base explodes higher, the Fed is FREAKING out.

You’ll note that during the Financial Crisis the Fed didn’t do much until the autumn of 2008 when it pumped nearly $1 trillion into the system. Think about that, the Fed didnâ??t go nuts pumping money until the stuff REALLY hit the fan.

You’ll also note that there’s only one other time when the monetary base went absolutely vertical: TODAY.

Indeed, the Fed has pumped nearly $500 billion into the system since the start of 2011. Don’t even try to tell me this is QE 2. If it was then the monetary base should have spiked in late 2010, NOT in 2011.

No, this is the Fed FREAKING OUT about the financial system again. And it’s a freak out on par with 2008.

So if you think that all is well “behind the scenes” you’re in for a rude surprise. Something BIG is going down and it’s NOT good."

After the Great Collapse will come the National Socialist state, where all live for the state.

[quote]farmerson12 wrote:
The problem I have is how it has come to this.[/quote]

…as a result of the public sector mis-management and corruption that has taken place for many years. No branch of government observes restraint, and each is immumne to any consequences for their actions. As institutions like government and the law stop being systems and start being industies, they serve only themselves.

Cali will scream for a Fed bailout, IOU’s, borrowed money, and all sorts of scams, of which I hope none will come. Some shit just needs to hit rock bottom for them to learn. That is why I love math. You see, Lib math always fails. You just cannot live in a fantasy world forever.