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Good Grief, Opera

I dont watch or listen to opera but f*ck me this is good.

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This is not opera.

It is just pop music sung by people with opera training

Il Divo are more ‘popera’ than opera.

Simon Cowell ‘discovered’ them, so it follows that any true classical elements are going to be watered down. A lot.

[quote]300andabove wrote:
I dont watch or listen to opera but f*ck me this is good.
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really? i hated it, each to his own i suppose.

[quote]lighting_guy wrote:

It is just pop music sung by people with opera training[/quote]

That would imply that these guys can actually sing. That can’t. They aren’t signing with any sort of “art music” style. They’re voices are thin, the vibrato is weak and they apparently can’t hear that they aren’t matching pitch. No blend on the bigger parts, so voices stick out and it doesn’t sound coherent.

Real signing:

King Singers: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hEYdoNRWw9I

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DH2oHTZzRc
Im Dorfe, from Winterreise by Franz Schubert

That was just painful to watch/listen too.

The King Singers are amazing. They sound like a human instrument.

[quote]boyscout wrote:
lighting_guy wrote:

It is just pop music sung by people with opera training

That would imply that these guys can actually sing. That can’t. They aren’t signing with any sort of “art music” style. They’re voices are thin, the vibrato is weak and they apparently can’t hear that they aren’t matching pitch. No blend on the bigger parts, so voices stick out and it doesn’t sound coherent.

Real signing:

King Singers: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hEYdoNRWw9I

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DH2oHTZzRc
Im Dorfe, from Winterreise by Franz Schubert[/quote]

Having the Circle of Fifths and Fourths as your avatar qualifies your expert musical criticism and analysis.

lol sorry if i peeved off the true opera lovers !

im a complete noob with this pop/opera or ANYTHING not to do with dance/trance/rock/roll.

Song just seemed to sit well with my brain

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:

Having the Circle of Fifths and Fourths as your avatar qualifies your expert musical criticism and analysis.

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QFT :wink:

[quote]300andabove wrote:
lol sorry if i peeved off the true opera lovers !

im a complete noob with this pop/opera or ANYTHING not to do with dance/trance/rock/roll.

Song just seemed to sit well with my brain [/quote]

Then you should listen to more of them. I was not trying to make up your mind for you. Listen to what you like. But if you do like this psuedo-operatic sound, I would encourage you to find a local performance of an Opera and check it out. Don’t expect it to be in English, though some places will perform English translations of opera.

Take a girl. It’s a “classy” date idea.

Another group for ‘popera’ is the Ten Tenors.
I kinda like the ‘One is not enough’ CD. the Youtube clips are mostly tv/lo-res, but can give you an idea.

[quote]boyscout wrote:
300andabove wrote:
lol sorry if i peeved off the true opera lovers !

im a complete noob with this pop/opera or ANYTHING not to do with dance/trance/rock/roll.

Song just seemed to sit well with my brain

Then you should listen to more of them. I was not trying to make up your mind for you. Listen to what you like. But if you do like this psuedo-operatic sound, I would encourage you to find a local performance of an Opera and check it out. Don’t expect it to be in English, though some places will perform English translations of opera.

Take a girl. It’s a “classy” date idea. [/quote]

It might even be fun:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pn7TSue5UGs