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Good Full Shoulder Workout Routine?

Does anyone know of any good full shoulder routines?

I’m not gonna hound you anymore dude except to say that you are approaching this whole enterprise in an overcomplicated counterproductive fashion at your level of experience.

You are a 125 pound 15 year old kid with ZEEROH knowledge, no offense.

You do not need a shoulder routine or a leg routine or any other kind of specialized work. Get your wrist healed and find a beginners program, you’ll thank me for it one day. If not you will disappear like 1000 other guys that wander through here or a year from now you’ll be having these same disputes about which kind of very light deadlift goes with leg extensions while weighing a few pounds more than you do now and that will be just because you got older.

I was 15 once. I remember what it was like to know everything before I knew anything. You ask questions and guys like Phil, who knows what he’s talking about, give you answers and you decide that your way is better. Why bother asking in the first place?

That’s why I keep saying to pick something for beginners and get going. All this reading, debating and discussing is not helping you.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
I’m not gonna hound you anymore dude except to say that you are approaching this whole enterprise in an overcomplicated counterproductive fashion at your level of experience.

You are a 125 pound 15 year old kid with ZEEROH knowledge, no offense.

You do not need a shoulder routine or a leg routine or any other kind of specialized work. Get your wrist healed and find a beginners program, you’ll thank me for it one day. If not you will disappear like 1000 other guys that wander through here or a year from now you’ll be having these same disputes about which kind of very light deadlift goes with leg extensions while weighing a few pounds more than you do now and that will be just because you got older.

I was 15 once. I remember what it was like to know everything before I knew anything. You ask questions and guys like Phil, who knows what he’s talking about, give you answers and you decide that your way is better. Why bother asking in the first place?

That’s why I keep saying to pick something for beginners and get going. All this reading, debating and discussing is not helping you.[/quote]

The only beginner routine I know of is the 20 rep squat routine. But I read that you have to be able to squat a lot for it to actually do anything. I can’t squat as much as it said so according to the site it isn’t worth it for me to try it. Do you know of any other beginner routines?

[quote]michaelangelos wrote:

The only beginner routine I know of is the 20 rep squat routine. But I read that you have to be able to squat a lot for it to actually do anything. I can’t squat as much as it said so according to the site it isn’t worth it for me to try it. Do you know of any other beginner routines?[/quote]

At the top of the beginner forum is a thread called “Are you a beginner” - http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=640350

About half way through the first post are a number of different beginner programs.

Good luck

Try one of these
Westside for Skinny Bastards:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm

The Anti-Bodybuilding Hypertrophy Program

[quote]Eleni wrote:
michaelangelos wrote:

The only beginner routine I know of is the 20 rep squat routine. But I read that you have to be able to squat a lot for it to actually do anything. I can’t squat as much as it said so according to the site it isn’t worth it for me to try it. Do you know of any other beginner routines?

At the top of the beginner forum is a thread called “Are you a beginner” - http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=640350

About half way through the first post are a number of different beginner programs.

Good luck[/quote]

Thank you.

[quote]Carmack/Blaze wrote:
Try one of these
Westside for Skinny Bastards:
http://www.defrancostraining.com/articles/archive/articles_westside.htm

The Anti-Bodybuilding Hypertrophy Program
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=459341[/quote]

Thank you too.

[quote]Eleni wrote:
michaelangelos wrote:

The only beginner routine I know of is the 20 rep squat routine. But I read that you have to be able to squat a lot for it to actually do anything. I can’t squat as much as it said so according to the site it isn’t worth it for me to try it. Do you know of any other beginner routines?

At the top of the beginner forum is a thread called “Are you a beginner” - http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=640350

About half way through the first post are a number of different beginner programs.

Good luck[/quote]

Silly me, yes, Vroom’s thread should be helpful. Seriously guy, getting pointed in one direction, even if it’s ultimately not the best one for you, will get you much further for now than playing musical routines.

I got a sure fire routine for a beginner.

Bench press
Overhead press
Pull ups
Squats
Dead lift

Three sets of ten for each exercise.
Three times a week.
Eat.
Sleep.

This will give you a foundation on which to build.

[quote]kroby wrote:
I got a sure fire routine for a beginner.

Bench press
Overhead press
Pull ups
Squats
Dead lift

Three sets of ten for each exercise.
Three times a week.
Eat.
Sleep.

This will give you a foundation on which to build.[/quote]

Word…

[quote]jakshafter wrote:
kroby wrote:
I got a sure fire routine for a beginner.

Bench press
Overhead press
Pull ups
Squats
Dead lift

Three sets of ten for each exercise.
Three times a week.
Eat.
Sleep.

This will give you a foundation on which to build.

Word…[/quote]

Don’t forget dips and bent-over rows.