Hey - I am going to be a little less reserved with my assistance - must have caught these lads on a bad day!
First some background information. PED (performance enhancing drugs) are generally thought of as ace cards here - so (ideally) they are used when you reach a relatively high level and not before. This is fine as far as AAS go for you - you are experienced and developed it seems.
However, there is no reason you should use IGF anytime soon, AAS alone can make you a mountain, you either a) don’t need to spend the money or b) should wait till nothing else works (or c] like many here - are not only a serious trainer, BB or PL but also experiment with the drugs).
I personally feel the same about GH - although as it is so popular many others do it very early on.
As for tren - above you suggested you would like to run that but no Test - in order to not only get the best from it but also keep certain sides to a minimum you will need a small amount of estrogen supplied too - which you would generally turn to an aromatising steroid to provide.
[quote]gymscle wrote:
Ok Here is the cycle I was thinking about:
Here is the cycle I was thinking of.
- WEEKS 1-6: Anapolon (wk1 50mg per day, wk2 100mg per day, wk3 150mg per day, wk4 150mg per day, wk5 100mg per day, wk6 50mg per day)[/quote]
Firstly not only it is not necessary nor recommended to taper up the dosgaes in a cycle, your dose of Oxymetholone is far too high. Have you read that 150 is a decent dose or have you guessed at that one?
Use 50-100mg, with 100mg IME being significantly better than 50mg.[quote]
* WEEKS 1-6: Trenabol (75mg Every Other Day)[/quote]
This is the low end of Tren these days - for one of two reasons - either underground lab Tren is better tolerated than Parabolan or we are simply a little less conservative these days than in the 80’s. It is a good dose that will provide little in the way of sides - if you can tolerate any side effects that arise, then pushing upto 350mg gives noticeable improvements IME.[quote]
* WEEKS 1-8: Testosterone Enanthate (1000 mg Per Week)[/quote]
You already said you were not sure about adding Test, now you are using a dose that is significantly higher than you need (or will enjoy, with 150mg/day of drol! Breasts anyone?)
With 50-100mg Drol and 225-350mg Tren you would be looking at something like 500-750mg of Test to make that a ‘real’ cycle. I have a number more than 3 cycles under my belt and i rarely use that much Test. FYI.[quote]
* WEEKS 1-10: HCG (Pregnyl) ***300-500IU EVERY 5 DAYS***[/quote]
Not bad - but 250iu has been shown to be ample in increasing Testosterone and while i am aware that the second pulse is around 4-5 days after the first injection, i personally think a little more frequent dosing is best - just 2x/wk is fine… some use daily but for Teste stimulation i believe 2x/wk is ample…[quote]
* WEEKS 1-10: Anastrozol (0.50 mg Every Other Day)[/quote]
If you are adding either Tren and test, Drol and Test or even JUST Test at 1000mg a week, then you will need a minimum of around 0.5mg ED IME. I personally need more - but there you go.[quote]
* WEEK 11: 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
* WEEK 12: 30mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid Every Day
* WEEK 13: 20mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid Every Day[quote]
I think one SERM will be fine.[quote]
In addition to that I plan to take every other day HGH 2-3 I.U. for 8 weeks. [/quote]
Assuming the dosing is SC, 8 weeks is NOT long enough to benefit from this drug. I am not about to suggest you use any other means of use either - someone else may choose to. I don’t think you should use it yet.[quote]
IGF- 2 i.u after each work out and start increasing it by 1 I.U every other work out till i get to a comfortable level.[quote]
Doses of IGF-1 LR3 (of you can still get the regular non-modified version i would appreciate the contact) are measured in mcg, with doses ranging from 10mcg to 100mcg.
I would drop this first - why on earth would someone who doesn’t compete nor has run more than 2 cycles need to stack 3 very effective AAS, GH and IGF?[quote]
also going to consume with it at least 10 grams of simple carbs like raisins or Ultra Fuel by twin lab. per IU with minimum intake of 100 gram of simple carbs regarding doses . appx 20-30 min after injecting the IGF.
also thought to take creatine with the carbs drink ., and 30 grams of mix whey and casine protein. [/quote]
I have a horrible feeling you are talking about Insulin, and not IGF. They are very VERY different things (albeit similar in action to a degree).
If you are thinking about using Insulin at your level of experience with PED - think again. You don’t need it!
You should be aware - as i am - that all these potent muscle builders will NOT make you into the body you want. It sadly doesn’t work like that. They can help - but it STILL takes years, dedication, effort, discipline and sacrifice (for the changes i want it does anyway!).
Stacking all the GH, Slin and AAS in the world will not make you grow 24/7. You will grow when you want to grow… that said, this means that if you add 500-1500mg of AAS a week to your relatively natural physiology, your body will now have a surplus of this anabolic hormone exerting its effects and side effects which will remove a few of the restrictions you had genetically. This ALONE will get you to a level far beyond where you are… then add more/different things; in diet, training and pharmacology.
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