Although i may not have an invite to participate, i think every newbie who begins here should spend at least a little while checking out the T-Cell Alpha threads. There is a continuous supply of knowledge from the guys who've been in the game for a while and also guys who are making serious progress and not letting anything - or anyone - stand in there way of achieving whatever they've set out to achieve.
I've been spending a lot of time over there recently - cos the bodybuilding forum has gone a little wayward - and i suggest people do the same.
READ. READ. READ.
Then after you've achieved some level of understanding that doesn't stem from internet gurus or muscle mags, you should be able to begin making good gains and if problems arise - and youve outsourced every possible article here on T-Nation - then go ahead, ask questions.
Lets try and make this place a little more accessible and cohesive to those really wanting help and not to people who are just to lazy to do some prior research.
yeah I like reading the t-cell a lot...I actually hope it stays more exclusive and they don't let anyone in until they get jacked and seem decently smart. I'm sure half the noobs like us are begging for an invite
I spend a hell of a lot more time viewing the T-Cell Alpha than I do viewing the rest of the forum. So much information and ideas. Pro-a-ggression is right - READ READ READ - You can never stop learning.
Edit: Damn, just remembered I was going to wait till the new year to register so I wouldn't be part of the '09 crowd. Ah well, shit happens....right?....Right?
the only problem I have with the t-cell is that cause the people in their are aware that all you need is progressive resistance and too eat more to grow their isn't much activity in that forum. It is a shame however I guess it is a case quantity over quality.
exactly!! I personally don't post in the T Cell. I've been a "member" pretty much since it started. I don't really get the whole "let's have a place where only the "serious" people can post". I also don't agree with leaving the decisions up to "sheriffs" and their subjective qualifications.
I would think that if one wanted an exclusive forum, it would be one that is dedicated to those that actually compete at a high level. In my eyes, the forum would be dedicated to competition. there would be threads on dieting, off season training, contest prep, contest results, videos of training, off season photos.. basically the members would detail the steps they take in the process. initiation into the Tcell would happen after you had actually competed in something. It would be something that folks would strive to be a part of. it would give them something to work towards. instead of waiting around for someone to pick you based on whether a sheriff likes you or not.
That would be a great idea if this site attracted more people who are actually more serious who compete AND actually participate in discussions.
However, it doesn't. I looked for anyone who had built a decent physique AND jumped on stage for the T-Cell...and as it stands, there may be 2 who actually post regularly. The rest don't come here that often or they don't participate.
As it stands, if anyone has built a decent physique and posts pics on this forum, the first ones on their ass are the "steroids/genetics" crowd.
In fact, the only reason we are able to have the discussions we are right now in the bodybuilding forum is because the T-Cell was created and they started monitoring this forum more. Before that, we couldn't post one topic about bodybuilding (especially on a pro level) without getting hit with 50 "eeeew, who would want to look like that" posts.
I know what YOU meant, but I also know what Maurauder meant. You two are not speaking of the same thing and some of the biggest critics of the T-Cell seem to be people who completely ignored all of the things that happened to cause its creation.
There was no BODYBUILDING discussion at all right before it was created. Animal started that thread in this forum and it was the ONLY bodybuilding related thread here. Every other discussion ended up being tons of little undeveloped guys talking about how functional they want to be and how their 15" arms were big enough.
Then, after the T-Cell is created and people start focusing on bodybuilding again (mostly because TC stepped forward about it), people want to forget that and act like it was never necessary.
I am just pointing that out since so many people seem lost as to why it exists to start with.