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Getting Testosterone Prescribed


#1

I was just curious if you were to go to your doctor saying you generally have a low libido all the time and have issues putting on muscle, andd you did this lets say 2-3 weeks after your cycle when your natural test is shut off, would the bloodtests work in your favor?

I'm just doing a cycle atm 3 weeks in, unreal how quickly results are showing, but the person I get from is expensive and most sites are typically fake/scammers etc. Any opinions on this would be interesting.. whether testosterone or nolvadex/arimidex getting prescribed in this manner.


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#2

I hope your doctor laughs you out of the office.


#3

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
I was just curious if you were to go to your doctor saying you generally have a low libido all the time and have issues putting on muscle, andd you did this lets say 2-3 weeks after your cycle when your natural test is shut off, would the bloodtests work in your favor?

I’m just doing a cycle atm 3 weeks in, unreal how quickly results are showing, but the person I get from is expensive and most sites are typically fake/scammers etc. Any opinions on this would be interesting… whether testosterone or nolvadex/arimidex getting prescribed in this manner.[/quote]

Depends on a lot of things, mainly how good of a doctor you have. If he/she is good, they will do a full work up on you and do a complete panel. They will then see low LH and low FSH. They will think you’ve been abusing steroids or have a pituitary tumor. Also, if you do a typical 8-12 week cycle, your hematocrit and hemoglobin will be elevated and they will see that too. That will be another thing they freak out about. Also, aramid ex can mess with your cholesterol profile.

Now, if you have a sloppy doctor, they’ll just check total testosterone, see it’s low, then prescribe you some Androgel or Testim. If you’re lucky, they might prescribe testosterone cypionate (but those docs will probably do a full panel).

Also, don’t talk about ‘how you can put on muscle.’ That is an immediate sign to any doc that you’re looking for a script for steroids. Don’t even talk about Nolva, SERMS, hCG, etc. right there that’ll tell a doc that you’re looking for drugs. Talk about lack of energy, dick don’t work, tired in the afternoon, lack of interest in sex, etc. Depending on your doc, you might get Androgel or you might get Viagra and some antidepressants.

As you can see, it’s not very easy, especially with the insurance company. How old are you, by the way? If you’re older, late 30’s and beyond, it’s easier than someone younger


#4

[quote]CobraMustangSVT wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
I was just curious if you were to go to your doctor saying you generally have a low libido all the time and have issues putting on muscle, andd you did this lets say 2-3 weeks after your cycle when your natural test is shut off, would the bloodtests work in your favor?

I’m just doing a cycle atm 3 weeks in, unreal how quickly results are showing, but the person I get from is expensive and most sites are typically fake/scammers etc. Any opinions on this would be interesting… whether testosterone or nolvadex/arimidex getting prescribed in this manner.[/quote]

Depends on a lot of things, mainly how good of a doctor you have. If he/she is good, they will do a full work up on you and do a complete panel. They will then see low LH and low FSH. They will think you’ve been abusing steroids or have a pituitary tumor. Also, if you do a typical 8-12 week cycle, your hematocrit and hemoglobin will be elevated and they will see that too. That will be another thing they freak out about. Also, aramid ex can mess with your cholesterol profile.

Now, if you have a sloppy doctor, they’ll just check total testosterone, see it’s low, then prescribe you some Androgel or Testim. If you’re lucky, they might prescribe testosterone cypionate (but those docs will probably do a full panel).

Also, don’t talk about ‘how you can put on muscle.’ That is an immediate sign to any doc that you’re looking for a script for steroids. Don’t even talk about Nolva, SERMS, hCG, etc. right there that’ll tell a doc that you’re looking for drugs. Talk about lack of energy, dick don’t work, tired in the afternoon, lack of interest in sex, etc. Depending on your doc, you might get Androgel or you might get Viagra and some antidepressants.

As you can see, it’s not very easy, especially with the insurance company. How old are you, by the way? If you’re older, late 30’s and beyond, it’s easier than someone younger[/quote]

I will give this kid no help.

http://tnation.T-Nation.com/hub/SuperTightPanda#myForums/thread/6139245/

Look at his only other post. He’s 21 140lbs, 5’11". He was told to wait etc. etc. etc. Says, Oh I’m only going to do one cycle to get to 160-170 then I’m done. He was given advice on getting his shit together and learning to eat. Admits that his diet sucks. NOW WANTS HELP TO GET FREE DRUGS!!!

!!!STUPID!!!


#5

I did not know.

At 21, you don’t want to get on TRT. It’s not a cycle. It’s a lifelong program. It can affect fertility and it can get expensive. I can’t think of any doctor that will put you on at your age. Do you want to stick yourself once or twice a week for the rest of your life? Do you want to deal with bloodwork every 6 months or so? Do you want to deal with sides and all that comes with it? It’s not fun, it’s a chore.

Also, you shouldn’t have cycled so soon? You’re still developing. You could have thrown your whole endocrine system off. Also, you need to eat more. If you’re over 5’10, you should eat and lift to around 200lbs. If you mess up, you might just have to get on TRT

I have low t and I take meds for it. Before I went on, I was 210lbs, had a 325 squat, 245 bench and 495 deadlift. Not great numbers, but it was a good base. I trained for a couple of years and went from 185 to 210 just eating and lifting for a couple of years. I’m also 38


#6

[quote]CobraMustangSVT wrote:

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:
I was just curious if you were to go to your doctor saying you generally have a low libido all the time and have issues putting on muscle, andd you did this lets say 2-3 weeks after your cycle when your natural test is shut off, would the bloodtests work in your favor?

I’m just doing a cycle atm 3 weeks in, unreal how quickly results are showing, but the person I get from is expensive and most sites are typically fake/scammers etc. Any opinions on this would be interesting… whether testosterone or nolvadex/arimidex getting prescribed in this manner.[/quote]

Depends on a lot of things, mainly how good of a doctor you have. If he/she is good, they will do a full work up on you and do a complete panel. They will then see low LH and low FSH. They will think you’ve been abusing steroids or have a pituitary tumor. Also, if you do a typical 8-12 week cycle, your hematocrit and hemoglobin will be elevated and they will see that too. That will be another thing they freak out about. Also, aramid ex can mess with your cholesterol profile.

Now, if you have a sloppy doctor, they’ll just check total testosterone, see it’s low, then prescribe you some Androgel or Testim. If you’re lucky, they might prescribe testosterone cypionate (but those docs will probably do a full panel).

Also, don’t talk about ‘how you can put on muscle.’ That is an immediate sign to any doc that you’re looking for a script for steroids. Don’t even talk about Nolva, SERMS, hCG, etc. right there that’ll tell a doc that you’re looking for drugs. Talk about lack of energy, dick don’t work, tired in the afternoon, lack of interest in sex, etc. Depending on your doc, you might get Androgel or you might get Viagra and some antidepressants.

As you can see, it’s not very easy, especially with the insurance company. How old are you, by the way? If you’re older, late 30’s and beyond, it’s easier than someone younger[/quote]

God damn that was detailed cobra, thanks for the input! that was proper as fuck and interesting lol

and lmao eatmorefood, I’m doing 6 weeks of test-e and winny I said and afterwards deciding what to do depending on my weight yes, probably give bill roberts short cycles a go, and I do have a proper calorie surplus and 200g protein a day for once :stuck_out_tongue: but age would screw this idea I know that already, just a thought, had to ask since it is safer pharmaceutical grade lol


#7

A word of advice unlesss your insurance covers it trt is extremely pricey. Sure you have scrip for your test and ancillaries, but you also pay astronomical prices based off the industry rate.

I got prescribed 4 1mg anastrozoles that were to be divided for a month
$42 dollars for 4 pills. Also unless you have insurance blood work cost alot.of cheddar cheese


#8

[quote]CobraMustangSVT wrote:
I did not know.

At 21, you don’t want to get on TRT. It’s not a cycle. It’s a lifelong program. It can affect fertility and it can get expensive. I can’t think of any doctor that will put you on at your age. Do you want to stick yourself once or twice a week for the rest of your life? Do you want to deal with bloodwork every 6 months or so? Do you want to deal with sides and all that comes with it? It’s not fun, it’s a chore.

Also, you shouldn’t have cycled so soon? You’re still developing. You could have thrown your whole endocrine system off. Also, you need to eat more. If you’re over 5’10, you should eat and lift to around 200lbs. If you mess up, you might just have to get on TRT

I have low t and I take meds for it. Before I went on, I was 210lbs, had a 325 squat, 245 bench and 495 deadlift. Not great numbers, but it was a good base. I trained for a couple of years and went from 185 to 210 just eating and lifting for a couple of years. I’m also 38[/quote]

Ahh never thought about that after they would prescribe that, damn. lol and I recently found out 6 people so far from high school had done it to be honest, one went extreme 16-18 went from normal size to number one in body competitions, another exact same build and got a mad 8 pack, I can see why now, but I know the cons and pros and feel 21 is a as early as I can start, yes the weight, but seems to be going great, but thankyou for the feedback since I know everyone on here are just helping :slight_smile:


#9

[quote]justsaynotoketo wrote:
A word of advice unlesss your insurance covers it trt is extremely pricey. Sure you have scrip for your test and ancillaries, but you also pay astronomical prices based off the industry rate.

I got prescribed 4 1mg anastrozoles that were to be divided for a month
$42 dollars for 4 pills. Also unless you have insurance blood work cost alot.of cheddar cheese [/quote]

Jesus christ lool well then, I guess my guy isn’t so badly priced afterall, guess I was just comparing it to a million scam sites :confused: lol


#10

It’s expensive. Androgel is almost $400 per bottle and I use 2 a month. Test C is cheaper at $77 a bottle and the bottle lasts 10 weeks at 200mg a week. HCG is around $200 a month at a compounding pharmacy and you already see how much arimidex is. It’s not cheap. Thankfully insurance covers all of that but I’ve seen people with some horror stories when it comes to TRT.

Just search on the TRT section and see the grief that some of these guys go through. You have to deal with docs, stupid endos and annoying urologists. Then you have to worry that the insurance company might drop TRT. What if you find a good doc and he retires? Now you have to find another one and hope he’s on the same program. What if you suddenly lose your job and have to go without insurance?

Who’s gonna pay for the testosterone and all the lab work and doctor visits. Some docs don’t even let their patients self inject. They make you come in the office every week to two weeks so they can inject you, and charge for the office visit.

I’m not trying to discourage you. I’m just trying to tell you that TRT is not as fun as it sounds. I had the same attitude. I wanted to cycle. I took a pre cycle blood test and found out I had hypogonadism. I did the cycle and it went very well and I’ve been on TRT every since. I like what it’s done for me, but I’m thankful I have the VA so all my stuff is free and I’m covered for life.


#11

[quote]CobraMustangSVT wrote:
It’s expensive. Androgel is almost $400 per bottle and I use 2 a month. Test C is cheaper at $77 a bottle and the bottle lasts 10 weeks at 200mg a week. HCG is around $200 a month at a compounding pharmacy and you already see how much arimidex is. It’s not cheap. Thankfully insurance covers all of that but I’ve seen people with some horror stories when it comes to TRT.

Just search on the TRT section and see the grief that some of these guys go through. You have to deal with docs, stupid endos and annoying urologists. Then you have to worry that the insurance company might drop TRT. What if you find a good doc and he retires? Now you have to find another one and hope he’s on the same program. What if you suddenly lose your job and have to go without insurance?

Who’s gonna pay for the testosterone and all the lab work and doctor visits. Some docs don’t even let their patients self inject. They make you come in the office every week to two weeks so they can inject you, and charge for the office visit.

I’m not trying to discourage you. I’m just trying to tell you that TRT is not as fun as it sounds. I had the same attitude. I wanted to cycle. I took a pre cycle blood test and found out I had hypogonadism. I did the cycle and it went very well and I’ve been on TRT every since. I like what it’s done for me, but I’m thankful I have the VA so all my stuff is free and I’m covered for life. [/quote]

Yeah definitely doesn’t sound fun :o jesus thats a lifetime hassle :confused: thanks for info bud


#12

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]CobraMustangSVT wrote:
I did not know.

At 21, you don’t want to get on TRT. It’s not a cycle. It’s a lifelong program. It can affect fertility and it can get expensive. I can’t think of any doctor that will put you on at your age. Do you want to stick yourself once or twice a week for the rest of your life? Do you want to deal with bloodwork every 6 months or so? Do you want to deal with sides and all that comes with it? It’s not fun, it’s a chore.

Also, you shouldn’t have cycled so soon? You’re still developing. You could have thrown your whole endocrine system off. Also, you need to eat more. If you’re over 5’10, you should eat and lift to around 200lbs. If you mess up, you might just have to get on TRT

I have low t and I take meds for it. Before I went on, I was 210lbs, had a 325 squat, 245 bench and 495 deadlift. Not great numbers, but it was a good base. I trained for a couple of years and went from 185 to 210 just eating and lifting for a couple of years. I’m also 38[/quote]

Ahh never thought about that after they would prescribe that, damn. lol and I recently found out 6 people so far from high school had done it to be honest, one went extreme 16-18 went from normal size to number one in body competitions, another exact same build and got a mad 8 pack, I can see why now, but I know the cons and pros and feel 21 is a as early as I can start, yes the weight, but seems to be going great, but thankyou for the feedback since I know everyone on here are just helping :)[/quote]

you do understand that the doses for TRT are not at all what the average cycle dose is, right?

it’s testosterone “REPLACEMENT,” not enhancement…


#13

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

you do understand that the doses for TRT are not at all what the average cycle dose is, right?

it’s testosterone “REPLACEMENT,” not enhancement…
[/quote]

Yeah I know I just wasn’t sure if people got prescribed the bottles and then just upped the doses, forgot there’s a lot of monitoring etc too. Didn’t know much on the TRT perspective til cobra explained the extent of it ;o totally different from what I thought.


#14

I think you have lots of other things to worry about at your age other than trying to scam free test out of doctors.


#15

[quote]blizzpat wrote:
I think you have lots of other things to worry about at your age other than trying to scam free test out of doctors.[/quote]

Lol unless I’m just thinking out loud right now, having involuntary muscle contractions that coincidently take me to my doctor, get prescribed test, and then do some cycles in midst of my deep thoughts, the court could never blame that on me…right? aha the perfect cover up.

…jking. but yeah I was just curious on the idea, going through would be a bit too stupid


#16

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:

you do understand that the doses for TRT are not at all what the average cycle dose is, right?

it’s testosterone “REPLACEMENT,” not enhancement…
[/quote]

Yeah I know I just wasn’t sure if people got prescribed the bottles and then just upped the doses, forgot there’s a lot of monitoring etc too. Didn’t know much on the TRT perspective til cobra explained the extent of it ;o totally different from what I thought.[/quote]

ah, okay.

sadly, back in the day (pre-Anabolic Steroid Control Act), the rumor is you could do exactly what you’re asking if the doc was willing to do it.


#17

[quote]SuperTightPanda wrote:

…jking. but yeah I was just curious on the idea, going through would be a bit too stupid [/quote]

Hmmm, thats where you draw the line?


#18

lol well morally I don’t care that a billion dollar pharmaceutical company is selling me there product, it’s my body and 90% of the crap at a GNC store is just like a drugstore trying to immitate testosterone which happens to be illegal, calling products testboost when its just vitamin c iron ginseng, lots of which no better then placebo effects, so scamming the real scammers is nothing in my mind :stuck_out_tongue: I just didnt know how Test therapy worked, so ya I draw the line there lol. viva la steroids, viva la muscle, viva la I wanna be a real boy cause I lost my dong due to a hooker accident so I cover it up by doing steroids. NOW YOU KNOW WHY I MUST DO THIS. lol jkin.


#19

this thread should serve as a reminder to women everywhere not to drink during pregnancy


#20

[quote]Yogi wrote:
this thread should serve as a reminder to women everywhere not to drink during pregnancy[/quote]

So I serve as sort of catalyst? a message to all woman to better the generation of our children? God damn, I’m doing alright then. :slight_smile: lol