[quote]Professor X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Along the lines of what X was saying: Stay away from older comics. The writing is so cheesey and horrid it’s unbelievable. Even some of the new stuff is pretty bad. Choose wisely, however, and you can find some incredible art. If any of you were fans of the TV show Angel, the relatively new comic is amazing; much better than even Marvel’s new, edgier work.
EH? Older stuff bad? Extinction agenda, Fall of the Mutants, Mutnat Massacre, Streets of Poison?
Most older comics ARE bad compared to the ones being released today. Comics from the 70’s are written like the only people reading them were under the age of 10. Comics today are written for their audience and they know by now that many of them are up into their 30’s.
There is no comic from the 1980’s or earlier as gritty as a newer Punisher graphic novel.
You picked a few examples as if that is a representation of all early work…and that is just not the case.
Agree to disagree This man this monster(60’s ff story), Marvel when they restarted their super hero line was very adult themed.
I’m not saying that there were NEVER ANY comics ever made before the 90’s worth reading. But if your stance is that most of the comics made decades ago stand on equal ground with those made today, you need to share whatever it is you are taking.
Not all books can be winners, look how they portrayed African American heros in the 70’s Luke Cage was a murder(framed) the Falcon was a pimp until the Skull used the cosmic cube to alter his brain to be more like Capt America’s(I got this really cheesy record/comic and the voice they have for the Falcon is just so bad it’s like are you serious?). All I’m trying to say is not all books are winners but for their times they’re good
That’s the point though. Luke Cage was a JOKE when he was first created. He was an answer to ‘blaxploitation’ films of the 70’s…like Blackula (yes, that was a real movie and not a cereal). There is no way a comic like that would make it out of the gate today, forcing writing to improve for that character. Today, Luke Cage is actually interesting and not just known for making stereotypically black comments every time something happens.
I am glad people like Stan Lee came up with some of the very first black characters in print along with all of his other work), but I won’t pretend like all of the early stuff is on par with some of the works of art from today.
The entire New Avengers books (with Spiderwoman and Cage) are written with good depth and a mature look on events. that would have not occurred in the 60’s. Hell, the Invisible Woman acts more like the leader of the FF now in many circumstances than simply Reed’s wife.[/quote]
I don’t think so either my comment was in
response to the guy who said all the earlier stuff was trash and it wasn’t. I remeber Blackula I’ve seen both films as well as Blackenstein, little trival knowledge William Marshall(Blackula) was the voice of the Juggernaut in an episode of Spiderman and his Amazing Friends. Anyway back on topic can you name an influencial character that wasn’t from the 80’s or before?