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Getting Big Without Supplements?

hello guys i am kinda skeptical to take any suppliments, be it protein powder or weight gainers, i have had a personal bad experience with weight gainers, about 2 yrs ago i started a weight training around the same time i developed a lump under my right nipple under my chest, the only thing different in my diet was THE
WEIGHT GAIN,

i went to several doctors, untill i went to a cancer specialist who told me there was obvious lump there and i should remove it doing surgey, this was the first time i have ever done any kind off surgery, i was scared as shit, he removed it, and ask me what my diet was like i told him everything, and he told me dont take the weight gainers anymore, that could have caused it,

i was pissed, beacause i used the product and gained like 8lbs in 2mths,now i am scared to take anything like suppliments, but was wondering what i can do or if i can pack on mass without suppliments, i have started again to lift weights and just eating lots off tuna, peanut butter, fish oil, etc…

was wondering if there was test i can do to determine if my blood has a problem with suppliments or its just BS, i am 36 now and dont realy want to be using weight gainers anymore, but protein suppliments would definately help i think, neeed some professional advice if posssible.

Bro, supplements are just that, supplements. You don’t need supplements if you can get all of your required nutrients in whole foods for the day. I’ve never heard of weight gainer causing cancer, and don’t think that it had anything to do with the lump under your nipple.

Eat plenty of clean foods and get your nutrients that way. Most people take supplements for convenance (it’s much easier to down a protein shake after a workout then eating a steak), but supplements are not needed in producing a formidable physique.

sory maybe i did not make myself clear, he said that the suppliments caused the lumb, which i think is a bunch of Bs, the cancer doctor said that he did not say that suppliments caused cancer, i think the name for the lump was gynocomastia, which i dont think i have,

trying to get to the bottom of this because i would like to atleast take a protein suppliment. just was wondering if there is a blood test i can do to see if i have a problem with my blood that caused the lump.

Can’t go wrong with 100% whey protein.

After a scare like that, personally, I’d steer clear of supplements.

[quote]Zelazo wrote:
Can’t go wrong with 100% whey protein. [/quote]

Agree. If you are going to buy supplements stick to the basics.

Protein powders, whey in particular, are very “fast feeding” types of protein, which makes them ideal for post workout (PWO). Any protein that you get from food sources must be first broken down by the body and therefore take longer to absorb.

Fish oil is a great source of omega 3 essential fatty acids. Omega 3’s are great for joint health, are anti-inflammatory, may lower blood pressure, decrease risk of heart disease and increase circulation to name a few benefits. Most American diets are also alarmingly low in omega 3’s.

Other honorable mentions:
BCAA’s
Protein/simple carb mixes (Surge)
creatine

I agree with what others said though, you don’t NEED supplements. It is possible to get all your nutrients from whole foods.

Supplements aren�??t necessary if you have the time and money to eat the food you need to get things done. If I felt like cooking meat and cleaning the pan out four times a day I wouldn�??t bother with protein shakes.

thanks alot guys,i think i’ll try my very best to use whole foods, i know its gonna be hard beacause i am a tech that works on the field, however i’ll try keeping up lots off fish and tuna, beans etc tt get some off my protein, i have only started back lifting weights 3 weeks now so i am basically using the bar, so i know that my body wont need much protein at the moment, i have just increased my diet to like 4-5 times daily.

umm just need some more advice, how do i count calories eg, if i eat like beans and rice and fish how will i count the amount off calories in a dish with food?i am trying to start a food log.thanks again guys, i appreciate all comments and help

Labels and measuring cups…
1 gram protein = 1 gram carbohydrates = 4 Calories
1 gram fat = 9 calories

[quote]skw wrote:
After a scare like that, personally, I’d steer clear of supplements. [/quote]

Which ones? Which supplement(s) would he not already be consuming through food? Protein? Creatine? Vitamins? I guess I don’t understand the fear.

[quote]TheDudeAbides wrote:
skw wrote:
After a scare like that, personally, I’d steer clear of supplements.

Which ones? Which supplement(s) would he not already be consuming through food? Protein? Creatine? Vitamins? I guess I don’t understand the fear.[/quote]

I don’t mean to be a dick either, but a one time coorelation doesn’t equal causation.

[quote]redserv wrote:
the cancer doctor said that he did not say that suppliments caused cancer, i think the name for the lump was gynocomastia, which i dont think i have,
[/quote]

This makes me think that this is one of those people who thinks protein powder and creatine are steroids. Gyno is a common side effect of steroids, and a lot of people less educated about this industry think that the word supplement and the word steroid are interchangeable.

You might want to ask for clarification from the doc to see what he really meant. Ask him what ingrediant he thinks caused it. Because I’m pretty sure weight gainers are just whey and maldextrose. aka, milk protein and sugar, aka, not causers of gyno.

One name : Eugene Sandow

Eat lots of eggs. I started to see a lot of progress after adding about a dozen eggs a day to my diet.

Cook the whites and eat the yolks raw.