Very true. I found out by chance from a blood test that my test levels were at 8.6 (measured in nmo/l) the scale of acceptable levels in this unit of measurement is 8.4-28. I raised my concern wth the doc since this is a VERY low reading for someone my age (26) and lifestyle and I’ve had some of the symptoms of hypogonadism. She said and I quote ‘well, it’s within normal range’ she agreed to send me to a liver specialist since I have elevated iron/ferritin levels but I know the reason for this, a hereditary condition to do with cataracts, I forget the name, it’s long. And the high iron can effect the pituitary, which effects the hypothalamus and so on.Any way I get the feeling this is going to be a very long drawn out process.
But I’ve noticed things seem to be a bit more relaxed in the states. To start with my dr said the nhs don’t even fund TRT so there was no chance of it ever happening. Wtf?!
Vtballa you seem very knowledgeable on the subject what do you make of this?
The high iron may be a possibility, but I really dont know of any links to that effecting the HPTA. Not to say it doesnt exist though as that’s not anything I’ve ever looked at.
Most of what I see though for guys your age is a result of overdieting or overtraining. Regardless of what some fitness gurus will want you to believe the idea of causing hormonal distress as a result of your active lifestyle is unfortunately a real possibility for some (those that are predisposed to this type of reaction). Unfortunately it is also the very definition of “idiopathic” as it is near impossible to identify and eliminate a single cause (not that you would want to either if it meant you couldn’t train).
The easiest thing to do would be to go to the TRT forum and read the stickeys and try to get a handle on the feedback loops, then attempt to get bloodwork to help identify the root cause. I don’t post in there much anymore but there are still some good knowledgeable guys in there (KSMan is one) that can hopefully help you.
I will say though that depending on where you are in the UK, you are in for an uphill battle. Some peoople are able to get TRT covered rather easily, but most can’t. It is sadder there than in the US, where it is also in the pits, so that says something.
The good news though is that blood tests and things are usually free, IIRC.[/quote]
Thanks for the response
Yes the blood tests are free but this means there is some serious nagging and persistence required on my part to get a full test done to include lh, fsh, e2, estradiol etc. I will try again next time for that. Until I get all the juicy details I won’t post in the trt forum, ksman is incredibly knowledgeable on the subject but I wanna have all my facts straight first!
I will let them go the low iron route for now and if that’s all clear, onto the endo.
Their reasoning with the low iron is it can inhibit pituitary function > hypothalamus function > test production.
How were you diagnosed?
Apologies for the hijack shred, at least my last question is relevant