Genetic Limits?

oh and one more thing. today with the advances in pro hormones such as mag 10. technically you could stay “clean” but still be somewhat assisted.

for example you do your last cycle #432 in dragos case, you decide your big enough now and just want to maintain. im sure an ocassional mag10 cycle would really help in maintaing that hard earned muscle.

oh and when im old and done having kids etc… i plan to pretty much be on low dose roids year round anyhow.

ps. fuck natural, its for pussies!

hahaha

I have pretty much come to that conclusion myself. I can see it now. “Dad, why is Gandpa so gosh darn big?” “Well son, he was big when I was a little boy too, he just got older was all.” “How come grandma is walking funny?” “Well son, cause grandpa is still tagging her” Yep, I am going to have me some 18 year old girl when I am 60+ years old. I am gonna knock the ass out of some of that shit, you just watch me!

Yeah ru! I’d like to think of the roids I do later in life as Hormone Replacement Therapy. Maybe a little above normal levels… :slight_smile:

Hopefully I will die of a HARDATTACK and not a HEARTATTACK.

“deep down i still dont feel that i am very big and i want to get bigger. where does it stop is my question?”

p-dog for you it would be when you can no longer wipe your ass unassisted, as this would pose a major problem for you.

“hardattack”

is that like when 4-5 big, giant, rock hard, juice monsters take you out in an orchard and molest your butt?

not that there is anything wrong with that.

No silly! a HARDATTACK is like you feel when you are surrounded by all those 18 year old girls but instead of them being clothed they are all naked and lubed up in baby oil just begging for you to hit every orfice they have. OHHH they are virgins too, HORNY virgins. HORNY VIRGINS THAT KNOW WHAT THEY WANT!!! Now imagine how your dick would feel after taking about 20 Viagras, to fuck the shit out of them all, that is a HARDATTACK!!!

To answer Mdogs question. IT NEVER WILL END, EVER. YOU WILL NEVER BE SATISFIED. Unless you get on medication.

How much muscle you can naturally hold depends largely on genetics. For example, if you naturally have high-normal test levels you’ll be able to support more muscle mass. Same with other factors, like insulin sensitivity, myostatin genes, muscle fibre size, thyroid levels, etc. and a host of others.

So, Lats I would say the answer is not clear cut. For some people, yes 3-4 steroid cycles could significantly affect how much muscle they will carry for ever (assume nutrition/training stays constant) and push up the notch to which they’ll ‘reset’ to. But for others, I’m certain that steroid usage wont lead to long term permanent musculature, and they could probably get to the same maximum totally naturally or after shrinking after going off (many) cycles.

I would say the tendancy is for steroid induced gains to lead to a higher overall mass ‘saved’ in the long term. Due to long term changes like fusing of satellite muscle cells and, correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t you also increase your number of androgen receptors over time (on gear?).