[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Ren wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Honor, duty, country…where do we find these values?
Homosexuality is immoral because it is a choice made against either God or nature, depending on if you accept religion or science.
Wow. Homosexuality is unnatural? Bull-fucking-shit. Do you and your anti-gay friends have any idea how abundant it is in nature?
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
So for the sake of accuracy, how is it against God or nature again? I am dying to hear some valid arguments.
Since homosexuality can’t produce children, it is unnatural.
Why all the desire to go against your own identity as a man? Quit hiding from yourself, kick all the PC bullshit to the curb and assert your existence.
Relativistic morality, the morality which allows these unnatural things into our culture, is actually no morality at all. It assumes that humans have no defining charactersitics and that what’s moral one day is immoral the next.
But physical facts cannot simply be ignored. Each living thing has its own innate structure. BUT, we have freedom of choice. We NEED a morality to help us survive. To help us decide, we need Principles/Axioms. It is precisely this idea that the PC/relativistic ‘morality’ denies exists. It screams: “There are NO absolutes!” (ignoring that it just used one.)
Until all of us accept that we need a morality and that THAT morality is founded on absolutes, our society will simply drift toward dissolution — of course, that IS the goal of the Lib/Relativists, now isn’t it?
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But by the same token one can say that sex purely for pleasure with no goal of reproduction is unnatural, since it is not to produce children? How about masturbation, no kids there, immoral? unnatural?
I am not a fan of PC bullshit, I despise it for the most part, I just find that some of your ideas are fanciful are far stretched. Absolute morality? I disagree with that. If this were the case we should still be living by the same rules as we did 2000 years ago.
I agree that society needs morality, but that begs the question, who’s morality? Do you accept what Christians claim as moral? What Muslims claim is moral? What Buddhists say is moral? All of which would have us leading very different lives if we were to follow those paths.