There is a lot of newbie questions going around lately, which is fine, but I thought I would take the liberty to post something that I saw a very long time ago on another board. It was originally posted by Iron Addict. I simply copy and saved it, which is what I prefer everyone else do as well.
The more gear you do the more you grow. Sorry I know many of you didn’t want to
hear that but it’s a fact. While going from 500 mgs a week to 1000 may not double your
gains it will increase them (assuming training and nutrition are in order) and going from a
gram to 2 grams a week will again probably not double your gains but again will increase
Something happens when mega-dosing (2+ grams a week) that simply does not occur
at lower doses. Magic starts! This doesn?t mean a newbie should jump to 2 grams a week.
You should always start low and slowly work up over YEARS time. I did gear for over 4
years before I ever hit a gram a week.
For growth heavy androgens are the way to go for 80% of trainees. This means a test
base with fina, d-bol, adrol, or EQ. Primo, deca winny etc have their uses but NEVER
supply the bang for the buck of the heavy hitters and never equate to the growth of the
big-boys. If you can’t grow on test, tren, and d-ball take up bowling, you ain’t gonna grow.
Quit searching for exotic roids that you think will somehow catapult you to the next level.
The basics are where it’s at. The only thing that grows better on the light anabolics is your
Shots should NOT hurt, or hurt VERY LITTLE! If the mg per ml ratio is correct for the
gear/ester a shot should not be painful and should not cause swelling. ALL common gear
(in oil, water based suspensions are a different animal) flows absolutely fine through a 25
gauge pin and if you can give me one reason to use anything else I would be stupefied! It
is NOT the amount of oil that causes pain, it is the solvent content. MORE IS NOT
MANY, MANY people are simply not bothered by est related sides. I see posts all the
time by people that have just always assumed they had to use anti-e’s and have never even
done a cycle without them. If you are not sure you should certainly have them on hand in
case, and they should always be used post-cycle but why use them if they are not needed?
I have NEVER used anti-e’s during a cycle even when doing 3 grams a week test. I have
NEVER had any est related problem. Even when doing synovex with the est left in.
Probably 80% of people do need anti-e protection but if you don’t need it why are you
doing it? All anti-e’s reduce the anabolic effects of gear to some degree.
Doing gear does NOT stop overtraining from occurring, it greatly reduces its effects
but EVERYONE still has a point (volume/frequency) at which overtraining occurs. THE
BIGGEST SINGLE REASON PEOPLE DO NOT GROW IS THEY OVERTRAIN,
PERIOD END OF DISCUSSION! I always suggest doing a routine that someone knows
they can grow on when not juicing then the gear will amplify the training results. Most
people overtrain and don’t grow optimally or at all.
After your first couple of cycles each subsequent cycle has diminishing returns. You
lose a large percentage of your gains post cycle. Don’t tell me you keep all or most of your
gains. If it worked that way the average guy starting out at 170 that gained 20 lbs each
cycle and kept 15 would only need to do 6 cycles spread out over two years to be a 260 lb
FREAK. It don’t work that way sorry!
The big boys (competitive Bodybuilders and powerlifters) generally stay on year round.
I know many of you didn’t want to hear this…sorry! That is how they avoid the weight
yo-yo’s and consistently go up.
The toxicity of orals is SEVERELY OVERSTATED. I have never talked to or
exchanged information with someone that actually had blood-work done while on that
still thought they were toxic. The people that will tell you how poison they are have
NEVER been tested while doing them. I have done d-ball for over a year strait at 75+ mgs
per day while being tested. No problems. They should still be used cautiously but until
you have had blood-work done you have no idea how they will effect you. Nonetheless
people recommending only using them for 4 weeks are fucking clueless!
NO ONE CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH SIZE AND STRENGT YOU
SHOULD/WILL GAIN ON A CYCLE. QUIT ASKING!
NO ONE CAN PREDICT WHAT SIDE EFFECTS YOU WILL INCUR, QUIT
NO ONE CAN TELL YOU HOW MUCH YOU WILL LOSE POST-CYCLE, QUIT
All these things can only be learned in retrospect AFTER you have tried. Your
individual metabolism is unique onto itself. You will never know until you try.
All AS work best in a calorie and macro/micro nutrient overabundance environment.
If you are a 180-225 lb lifter and are not getting at least 300-350 grams of protein
EVERY DAY quit bitching that your not growing. If you are 225 and above you need
350-400+ grams a day if you are training heavy. Step up to the dinner plate or go home.
Losing bodyfat while gaining muscle is not an optimal situation. MANY can pull it
off, most people fall flat on their face attempting it. Add mass then cut. They should be
SIMPLE stacks using test as a base ALWAYS with one other item is all the average
guy will ever need to do. Test/tren, test/d-bol, and test/EQ is ALL you need to build all
the size and strenght you are going to need unless you are an elite competitor. QUIT
LOOKING FOR EXOTIC STACKS TO MAKE YOU GROW, IT’S THE BASICS
WITH GEAR AND TRAININ THAT WORK!
If your training is correct not a lot of gear is required for great results. Training and
diet is the TRUE key to increased size and strength.
Until you are an advanced lifter you should NOT be doing gear. If I see another post
by a 180 lb lifter that has been training for two years and wants to know how to cycle
XXX I?m gonna kill something. Get your training and diet sorted out first and build a
strong foundation before taking the plunge. You will thank yourself later.