Gear in China, Russia, or Thailand?

Pharma / TRT
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Hey T-Nation. Long time listener, first time caller.

I’m currently a Western man living and working in China. Let’s say a friend of mine wanted to get ahold of some gear. Hmmm, ahhh, I dunno say Stanzolol Depot, for instance. What would his options be?

As any inquisitive and self-reliant person, I began my search on Google. A lot of them were old… pre-beijing olympics, and none of them gave me the answers I was looking for.

I met a guy in Shandong who lifted (bodybuilder. Straight up competition status.)so I decided to ask him if he knew anything about it. I mentioned that I know he had been in the community and that he competed (and won) in some BB competitions and that he probably knew a lot of people in the community so he might know something about it. Even Though I know damn well that as yoked as he is there’s probably a 99.9% certainty that he’s jabbing something. Probably lots of somethings. Possibly every something besides synth.

His response was to go full “Ultimate Warrior is Insane” on me. (If you haven’t seen the video check it out, it’s pretty funny). Actually his reactions pretty much confirmed that he was on something as far as I’m concerned. But it didn’t bring me any closer to my goals. Taking in one last smell of the smoke from that burned bridge, I decided to pursue my next course of action.

I asked a friend. Not a bodybuilder, just a pretty nice guy, and a regular, average chinese dude if he knew anything about it. I asked him if it was possible to get a prescription for it from a doctor here. He said that he thought it was possible but I haven’t been able to confirm that yet.

Going to a doctor would be a preferred method as China is full of contaminated and knockoff goods. Not specifically AAS, but I want to be careful.

Before anyone says all the freaking gear comes from China so it’s easy as going to the pharmacy and asking for it, I can assure you that is not true. I’m sure some people here take it…just like everywhere else, but they seem pretty unwilling to help a foreign dude out.

Curiosity leads me to ask other questions. If a friend of mine really wanted something like this, what would be a better option, taking a vacation for a month to say Russia, or Thailand (both countries are pretty close and not difficult to gain entry).

Anyway, I hope someone who’s had some experience can give me a bit of information. It would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all replies, T-bros.
Block Stone

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[quote]blockstone wrote:
Hey T-Nation. Long time listener, first time caller.

I’m currently a Western man living and working in China. Let’s say a friend of mine wanted to get ahold of some gear. Hmmm, ahhh, I dunno say Stanzolol Depot, for instance. What would his options be?

As any inquisitive and self-reliant person, I began my search on Google. A lot of them were old… pre-beijing olympics, and none of them gave me the answers I was looking for.

I met a guy in Shandong who lifted (bodybuilder. Straight up competition status.)so I decided to ask him if he knew anything about it. I mentioned that I know he had been in the community and that he competed (and won) in some BB competitions and that he probably knew a lot of people in the community so he might know something about it. Even Though I know damn well that as yoked as he is there’s probably a 99.9% certainty that he’s jabbing something. Probably lots of somethings. Possibly every something besides synth.

His response was to go full “Ultimate Warrior is Insane” on me. (If you haven’t seen the video check it out, it’s pretty funny). Actually his reactions pretty much confirmed that he was on something as far as I’m concerned. But it didn’t bring me any closer to my goals. Taking in one last smell of the smoke from that burned bridge, I decided to pursue my next course of action.

I asked a friend. Not a bodybuilder, just a pretty nice guy, and a regular, average chinese dude if he knew anything about it. I asked him if it was possible to get a prescription for it from a doctor here. He said that he thought it was possible but I haven’t been able to confirm that yet.

Going to a doctor would be a preferred method as China is full of contaminated and knockoff goods. Not specifically AAS, but I want to be careful.

Before anyone says all the freaking gear comes from China so it’s easy as going to the pharmacy and asking for it, I can assure you that is not true. I’m sure some people here take it…just like everywhere else, but they seem pretty unwilling to help a foreign dude out.

Curiosity leads me to ask other questions. If a friend of mine really wanted something like this, what would be a better option, taking a vacation for a month to say Russia, or Thailand (both countries are pretty close and not difficult to gain entry).

Anyway, I hope someone who’s had some experience can give me a bit of information. It would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all replies, T-bros.
Block Stone[/quote]

Asians don’t like white guys lol.

Also, if you’re going to through all the trouble of getting gear in a tough spot…don’t get winny. Unless you’re looking for minimal gains and sore joints? Then by all means get it.

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Chinese HGH is pretty good

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Can’t you just order online and get it shipped like many of us here do? I wouldn’t approach random people and ask about gear…

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Hey, just as an aside, do you happen to know if AAS are legal in China? I honestly don’t know. If they aren’t, just be extra careful about asking around. Very often foreign countries have extremely Draconian laws compared to North America for shit like that ( Singapore being the example that comes to most people’s minds). I imagine Chinese/Russian/Thai prisons are a little more intense than ours are. I’m sure you already know this and I mean no offense about your common sense. Just thought I’d be the one to post the public service announcement.

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[quote]blockstone wrote:
Hey T-Nation. Long time listener, first time caller.

I’m currently a Western man living and working in China. Let’s say a friend of mine wanted to get ahold of some gear. Hmmm, ahhh, I dunno say Stanzolol Depot, for instance. What would his options be?

As any inquisitive and self-reliant person, I began my search on Google. A lot of them were old… pre-beijing olympics, and none of them gave me the answers I was looking for.

I met a guy in Shandong who lifted (bodybuilder. Straight up competition status.)so I decided to ask him if he knew anything about it. I mentioned that I know he had been in the community and that he competed (and won) in some BB competitions and that he probably knew a lot of people in the community so he might know something about it. Even Though I know damn well that as yoked as he is there’s probably a 99.9% certainty that he’s jabbing something. Probably lots of somethings. Possibly every something besides synth.

His response was to go full “Ultimate Warrior is Insane” on me. (If you haven’t seen the video check it out, it’s pretty funny). Actually his reactions pretty much confirmed that he was on something as far as I’m concerned. But it didn’t bring me any closer to my goals. Taking in one last smell of the smoke from that burned bridge, I decided to pursue my next course of action.

I asked a friend. Not a bodybuilder, just a pretty nice guy, and a regular, average chinese dude if he knew anything about it. I asked him if it was possible to get a prescription for it from a doctor here. He said that he thought it was possible but I haven’t been able to confirm that yet.

Going to a doctor would be a preferred method as China is full of contaminated and knockoff goods. Not specifically AAS, but I want to be careful.

Before anyone says all the freaking gear comes from China so it’s easy as going to the pharmacy and asking for it, I can assure you that is not true. I’m sure some people here take it…just like everywhere else, but they seem pretty unwilling to help a foreign dude out.

Curiosity leads me to ask other questions. If a friend of mine really wanted something like this, what would be a better option, taking a vacation for a month to say Russia, or Thailand (both countries are pretty close and not difficult to gain entry).

Anyway, I hope someone who’s had some experience can give me a bit of information. It would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance for all replies, T-bros.
Block Stone[/quote]

dont know for china, but in serbia is really as simple as walking in a pharmacy and asking for what you need, even in large quantities, if you have the money you will get what you need, doesnt matter where you come from…

in russia it is not illegal too, but dont know what/where to get it… but russian powerlifters normally dont hide how/what/when they take so from experience with them I hope it is not hard to find it there…

Thailand is thailand, I even know serbian people who went to thailand, got married there, just for that…

just dont ask random dudes like that please… at least not as directly…

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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
Asians don’t like white guys lol.

Also, if you’re going to through all the trouble of getting gear in a tough spot…don’t get winny. Unless you’re looking for minimal gains and sore joints? Then by all means get it.[/quote]

I hadn’t heard that about winny. I’d heard that depot gives pretty decent gains, with minimal side effects and a good ability to keep your gains after you go off the gear.

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[quote]complete_fraud wrote:
Can’t you just order online and get it shipped like many of us here do? I wouldn’t approach random people and ask about gear…[/quote]

Nah, from what I understand that stuff’s regulated for “export only”.

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[quote]CMdad wrote:
Hey, just as an aside, do you happen to know if AAS are legal in China? I honestly don’t know. If they aren’t, just be extra careful about asking around. Very often foreign countries have extremely Draconian laws compared to North America for shit like that ( Singapore being the example that comes to most people’s minds). I imagine Chinese/Russian/Thai prisons are a little more intense than ours are. I’m sure you already know this and I mean no offense about your common sense. Just thought I’d be the one to post the public service announcement.[/quote]

There’s a lot to dislike about China. Lately when I walk into the supermarket, I tend to think to myself “god damn… I gotta eat this shit again. UGH!” One thing I do like is that TYPICALLY the police don’t mess with you if you’re not bothering anyone.

China is a bit funny about drugs sometimes, I’ve heard that people who smuggle heroin tend to find themselves doing their final dance to the rhythm of the firing squad. Maybe China still keeps the memories of the Opium Wars close. I don’t know. I’ve heard they don’t mess with you for “personal use” amounts of gear.

Also foreigners tend not to get messed with unless they do something stupid. Pot is illegal here, but foreigners sometimes smoke the stuff in a restaurant with no repercussions that I’m aware of.

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[quote]gavra wrote:
dont know for china, but in serbia is really as simple as walking in a pharmacy and asking for what you need, even in large quantities, if you have the money you will get what you need, doesnt matter where you come from…

in russia it is not illegal too, but dont know what/where to get it… but russian powerlifters normally dont hide how/what/when they take so from experience with them I hope it is not hard to find it there…

Thailand is thailand, I even know serbian people who went to thailand, got married there, just for that…

just dont ask random dudes like that please… at least not as directly…
[/quote]

I am aware that Mexico is much the same way. Walk into a pharmacy. Pay for it. Walk out. Thank your for your business. Done.

If you can do the same in serbia, why would they go to thailand for it?

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too much risk IMO…

-fake gear
-draconian repercussions (as mentioned)
-dirty gear
-getting robbed (this shit actually happens)

you could easily find yourself incarcerated in a foreign prison… or worse. those Albanians will leave you face down in a ditch for 50 bucks

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[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
Asians don’t like white guys lol.

Also, if you’re going to through all the trouble of getting gear in a tough spot…don’t get winny. Unless you’re looking for minimal gains and sore joints? Then by all means get it.[/quote]

I hadn’t heard that about winny. I’d heard that depot gives pretty decent gains, with minimal side effects and a good ability to keep your gains after you go off the gear.
[/quote]

Well whoever you heard that from is dumb.

Steroids are steroids…keeping gains has to do with proper pct, training and diet. Sure you lose more weight coming off of things like deca and Dbol, but that’s just water weight.

Winny is for pre-contest that’s about it.

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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

Well whoever you heard that from is dumb.

Steroids are steroids…keeping gains has to do with proper pct, training and diet. Sure you lose more weight coming off of things like deca and Dbol, but that’s just water weight.

Winny is for pre-contest that’s about it.[/quote]

Personally, I don’t have any experience with steroids. I’m in pretty good shape. I don’t take any supplements aside from the daily multivitamin. I think that if I was to take something, my body would respond pretty well given this situation.

If I was to entertain the idea of using enhancements, I think my main concern would be low-side effects (I don’t want gynocomastia, and I definitely don’t want to go around raging because I work with a bunch of kids. And they are crazy. lol. But I don’t want to do anything that might mean that I could have the possibility of going Chris Benoit on them…or anything close to that) also muscle and strength retention would be a primary concern for me.

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[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

Well whoever you heard that from is dumb.

Steroids are steroids…keeping gains has to do with proper pct, training and diet. Sure you lose more weight coming off of things like deca and Dbol, but that’s just water weight.

Winny is for pre-contest that’s about it.[/quote]

Personally, I don’t have any experience with steroids. I’m in pretty good shape. I don’t take any supplements aside from the daily multivitamin. I think that if I was to take something, my body would respond pretty well given this situation.

If I was to entertain the idea of using enhancements, I think my main concern would be low-side effects (I don’t want gynocomastia, and I definitely don’t want to go around raging because I work with a bunch of kids. And they are crazy. lol. But I don’t want to do anything that might mean that I could have the possibility of going Chris Benoit on them…or anything close to that) also muscle and strength retention would be a primary concern for me.[/quote]

go around raging?

going Chris Benoit on them?

for fuck’s sake… you can’t actually be this stupid…

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

Well whoever you heard that from is dumb.

Steroids are steroids…keeping gains has to do with proper pct, training and diet. Sure you lose more weight coming off of things like deca and Dbol, but that’s just water weight.

Winny is for pre-contest that’s about it.[/quote]

Personally, I don’t have any experience with steroids. I’m in pretty good shape. I don’t take any supplements aside from the daily multivitamin. I think that if I was to take something, my body would respond pretty well given this situation.

If I was to entertain the idea of using enhancements, I think my main concern would be low-side effects (I don’t want gynocomastia, and I definitely don’t want to go around raging because I work with a bunch of kids. And they are crazy. lol. But I don’t want to do anything that might mean that I could have the possibility of going Chris Benoit on them…or anything close to that) also muscle and strength retention would be a primary concern for me.[/quote]

go around raging?

going Chris Benoit on them?

for fuck’s sake… you can’t actually be this stupid… [/quote]

Take it easy dude. First. I was half joking. Sometimes I get mad at the kids. They can be brats. I just want to make sure I don’t overreact to a situation when they act like brats.

Second, as I’ve said. I’ve got no personal experience with the stuff.

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ok, steroids do not make you “rage” or “aggressive” or anything of that sort.

only people who are too immature to be using these compounds “feel” those effects… also the media and bullshit

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[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

Well whoever you heard that from is dumb.

Steroids are steroids…keeping gains has to do with proper pct, training and diet. Sure you lose more weight coming off of things like deca and Dbol, but that’s just water weight.

Winny is for pre-contest that’s about it.[/quote]

Personally, I don’t have any experience with steroids. I’m in pretty good shape. I don’t take any supplements aside from the daily multivitamin. I think that if I was to take something, my body would respond pretty well given this situation.

If I was to entertain the idea of using enhancements, I think my main concern would be low-side effects (I don’t want gynocomastia, and I definitely don’t want to go around raging because I work with a bunch of kids. And they are crazy. lol. But I don’t want to do anything that might mean that I could have the possibility of going Chris Benoit on them…or anything close to that) also muscle and strength retention would be a primary concern for me.[/quote]

go around raging?

going Chris Benoit on them?

for fuck’s sake… you can’t actually be this stupid… [/quote]

Take it easy dude. First. I was half joking. Sometimes I get mad at the kids. They can be brats. I just want to make sure I don’t overreact to a situation when they act like brats.

Second, as I’ve said. I’ve got no personal experience with the stuff.[/quote]

Steroids don’t do that.

If you murder your kids, you were going to do it anyway. That wrestler obviously had deep seeded issues that needed to be addressed.

So, IF you do kill your kids, don’t blame the sauce lol.

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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

Well whoever you heard that from is dumb.

Steroids are steroids…keeping gains has to do with proper pct, training and diet. Sure you lose more weight coming off of things like deca and Dbol, but that’s just water weight.

Winny is for pre-contest that’s about it.[/quote]

Personally, I don’t have any experience with steroids. I’m in pretty good shape. I don’t take any supplements aside from the daily multivitamin. I think that if I was to take something, my body would respond pretty well given this situation.

If I was to entertain the idea of using enhancements, I think my main concern would be low-side effects (I don’t want gynocomastia, and I definitely don’t want to go around raging because I work with a bunch of kids. And they are crazy. lol. But I don’t want to do anything that might mean that I could have the possibility of going Chris Benoit on them…or anything close to that) also muscle and strength retention would be a primary concern for me.[/quote]

go around raging?

going Chris Benoit on them?

for fuck’s sake… you can’t actually be this stupid… [/quote]

Take it easy dude. First. I was half joking. Sometimes I get mad at the kids. They can be brats. I just want to make sure I don’t overreact to a situation when they act like brats.

Second, as I’ve said. I’ve got no personal experience with the stuff.[/quote]

Steroids don’t do that.

If you murder your kids, you were going to do it anyway. That wrestler obviously had deep seeded issues that needed to be addressed.

So, IF you do kill your kids, don’t blame the sauce lol.

[/quote]

IIRC, chris benoit was completely strung out when he killed his family… and an autopsy revealed that he had the mental function of a retarded person (from all the head trauma due to WWE)

sooo… not “roids”

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[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:

[quote]blockstone wrote:

[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:

Well whoever you heard that from is dumb.

Steroids are steroids…keeping gains has to do with proper pct, training and diet. Sure you lose more weight coming off of things like deca and Dbol, but that’s just water weight.

Winny is for pre-contest that’s about it.[/quote]

Personally, I don’t have any experience with steroids. I’m in pretty good shape. I don’t take any supplements aside from the daily multivitamin. I think that if I was to take something, my body would respond pretty well given this situation.

If I was to entertain the idea of using enhancements, I think my main concern would be low-side effects (I don’t want gynocomastia, and I definitely don’t want to go around raging because I work with a bunch of kids. And they are crazy. lol. But I don’t want to do anything that might mean that I could have the possibility of going Chris Benoit on them…or anything close to that) also muscle and strength retention would be a primary concern for me.[/quote]

go around raging?

going Chris Benoit on them?

for fuck’s sake… you can’t actually be this stupid… [/quote]

Take it easy dude. First. I was half joking. Sometimes I get mad at the kids. They can be brats. I just want to make sure I don’t overreact to a situation when they act like brats.

Second, as I’ve said. I’ve got no personal experience with the stuff.[/quote]

Steroids don’t do that.

If you murder your kids, you were going to do it anyway. That wrestler obviously had deep seeded issues that needed to be addressed.

So, IF you do kill your kids, don’t blame the sauce lol.

[/quote]

IIRC, chris benoit was completely strung out when he killed his family… and an autopsy revealed that he had the mental function of a retarded person (from all the head trauma due to WWE)

sooo… not “roids” [/quote]

Lol…exactly my point.

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I remember an old thread here that was started by an American guy living in China. He said that AAS are completely legal there, for personal use. Readily available in pharmacies.

The caveat being that possession of syringes is illegal. He even told a story of his buddy’s house being raided, all needles being confiscated, but he was left with all of his juice.