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for the last 6 years I was completely out of the loop in reference to supplements. Wow how things have changed. After serving time in Texas (state system) and Feds I now aspire to get back in shape, yet how things have changed. Remember how different it all used to be on the boards and sources. I was popped on state possession charges and federal steroid distribution and money laundering. In retrospect lotsa mistakes yet it is done. I was checking out www.bop.gov …inmate locator. I can see some of my old buddies never made it into the system. How do you say amazing? Good to be free!!!

Glad you are out dude! Welcome to the board! Im sure with being popped on that kinda rep you have some knowlege to share! Look forward to hearing some of it!

Jazz

I’d like to hear your perspectives on what you feel has changed. Good to have you here. Sorry you had to spend 6 years of your life in jail for something that should be legal in the first place.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
I’d like to hear your perspectives on what you feel has changed. Good to have you here. Sorry you had to spend 6 years of your life in jail for something that should be legal in the first place.[/quote]

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welcome fella.

[quote]koots wrote:
Cortes wrote:
I’d like to hear your perspectives on what you feel has changed. Good to have you here. Sorry you had to spend 6 years of your life in jail for something that should be legal in the first place.

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No real need to bump a thread 13 minutes after the last post :slight_smile:

Ttokkyo was really up and coming. Yet so was their keta production—in my opinion the number one reason their steroid ops were dismantled by the dea/feds. Ft Dodge was already a problem, yet ttokkyo and a real gready source in TJ further promoted it. The days of a source carrying gear only were diminishing anyway…old sources such as oilbased, gorillajuice, db (out of cali)—all these guys were peddaling keta; The gear (mex) was all coming from the same supplier in TJ who later tied in with Molina of ttokkyo.

This brought way too much attention to the gear biz and how it was crossed into the states. Plus a major mule got popped and started ratting on a few customers. The feds busted me at a storage just outside San Ysidro-yet I walked because the storage was not in my name NOR did I truthfully know the contents. Yet overall this was affecting th inbound gear from other countries as well—once the feds started seeing the gear biz was in such high demand. I used to use the anabolex, renegade and undergroundboards.

I knew one of the main guys with renegade. Think he got out of the game, in addition to being a complete moron—nearly got us popped in San Diego. Information is a bitch. Data bases and info from bust link one to another. Long story yet in retrospect I was WAY TO WIDE OPEN…I know now though. More later if anyone gives a rats ass…

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some scary shit nomas. I was talking to a buddy of mine about how things were back in the day. When gear flowed easily and no one really cared about it.

got off my ass and went to gym today. haha, weak, fat and hairy! Did some circuit type lifting. Plus now I am a lil older. No biggy will just take a lil time. Was researching Craig Titus. WTF??? Thought I had problems. 2 of my buddies from the WSM, one was in a wreck the other dead. Damn, things change fast. I am sure it will take some time to orient myself on the new supplements, yet as before slow and steady wins the race…

[quote]koots wrote:
Cortes wrote:
I’d like to hear your perspectives on what you feel has changed. Good to have you here. Sorry you had to spend 6 years of your life in jail for something that should be legal in the first place.

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True Dat’!..bump also!

Say been looking at youtube…Here is what pisses me off. I see some guy get 7 fucking years for a horrendous accident that really fucked lotsa folks up. Not so much their situation yet the whole alcohol gig. Hell look at tobacco and the problems it causes…OK I am for free will and the right to choose yet I spent years of my life in prison due to a “scheduling” and classification of a drug—yeh fuck that. No disrespect to the dead dealer in Plano, yet once again 3 years probation and the dude supposedly committs suicide; get his life straight.

Bottom line legalize AAS usage; Allow md’s to prescribe and regulate. Jacobs was going to roll, henceforth, the probation. Looks like he was living fairly comfortable. To a degree everyone cooperates when they get popped, one way or another EVERYONE talks…5k1 downward departures are good motivation. Some do not even see a day of county jail or probation-contingent on their level of cooperation.

I would fucking love to name a dude out in CALI who is a sorry rat lying bastard…So many so called sources I knew in TJ who never even went in the gym-punks who did not even respect the sacrifice of the iron game.

I digress. Been checking out some sites. I used to sell 2000+ amps of week of NILES. One product, not including the ref, t200s, tubs of dbol, clen—fuck 3 of us could not keep up. I drove all over the damn place looking for new places to “conduct my ebay biz.”

Now I wonder who in the hell might clip me for a few hundred dollars…Full circle, haha…Nubain? I remember throwing that shit out the window, only to come back later and crawl on my hands and knees for it. DEA in Mission Valley popping me at a kinkos…Feds following me in TX until I dropped the hammer and hit 170+ —all because of my stupidity of being too wide open and not realizing the shit would eventually get me in a world of shit. Now I am damn near 40 and starting my life over. I can tell you this I will never sell shit again in my life.

People talk, bottom line. It is sooo easy to cross you out. Go from a decent living, owing your own business, sleeping in bed at night with your family to a holding tank in county jail, no longer could I justify it.

Man I really want to start some shit with some of my old so called hardcore partners around the states who were “down” with me, yet I wont…I know how they beat their rap. Years ago a popular BIG source owned a vet supply.?? Oro?? you would know if you were in the game. Screw you Ge****. You are a no counting mexican national who was too stupid to realize that you and Mo***a stepped into US territory. Dumbass. Yet the crooked cop who popped you guys later got popped too.

Without naming a bunch of names I am gonna leave it at that. Nothing like a dude who will front ya a 100k worth of gear then short you every time on the recount. You drop your payment cause you trust the dude since he is fronting you, yet every time you come up short. Should have thought about that.

great post.

[quote] JJ wrote:
great post.

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Glad you understood it mate :slight_smile:

Well i have lived quite a life, and while i wasnt a dealer of AAS on that scale - i been around. ;p

And that’s how it works, isn’t it?

Everything’s good. And it keeps going fine…for years, maybe.

And then one day, everything’s bad. No warning, nothing. Only to later find out your so-called friends are not that, when it’s their ass in the hot seat.

It certainly does make one want to be a recluse.

Doesnt it… i have lost LARGE groups of ‘friends’ literally overnight in the past.

Without doing anything to warrant such a thing, it is really very eye-opening to inter-personal relationships between people.

When things are good - people lo-hove you. When the shit hits, all the friends that you stuck by when they needed you - DISAPPEAR for you to deal with alone.

OP, you mentioned that you had the urge to look up some old running partners, but as you mentioned - you are now in your forties. is there a chance that in the years you were away, that they have chilled out and stopped the shit and wretch ‘settled down’?

I just have known many very hard and ‘enterprising’ men who, after getting into their 40’s, stop running around bashing and selling to settle. Content with just being the toughest guy in the village and waiting for the yound uns to come through.

I believe it is partly due to declines in Testosterone levels, and also due to the fact that as one gets older one is so much more acutely aware of the fragility of life.
(not in normal dealing situations, but larger scale or where the threat of violence with weopans is common)

JMO

JJ

i reckon its also the case that the more times you get done the higher the sentences go for the same offence.

plus when your younger you ve got more to prove to yourself and others…