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Gastric Bypass Surgery

I just read this article on CNN.com

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/03/23/obesity.surgery.ap/index.html

It basically talks about how some states may start requiring insurance companies to cover Gastric Bypass surgery for fat people.

Seems like total bullshit to me that everyone’s insurance premiums will probably go up because people don’t have a little self control.

I can understand if it’s a disease of some sort that CAUSES you to be fat, then I’m all for it, but if you get diabetes or heart problem because you let your weight get way out of hand, well you’re only getting what you earned.

[quote]Watson2K5 wrote:
Seems like total bullshit to me that everyone’s insurance premiums will probably go up because people don’t have a little self control.[/quote]

Welcome to the welfare and police state that is this country. When the free market is tampered with by the government, it will ALWAYS adjust accordingly. It’s either libertarianism or socialism for this country, with no middle ground. Unfortunately, the masses already chose the path of socialism more than half a century ago. Convincing them to turn around, especially in today’s authoritarian atmosphere, is an Atlantean undertaking.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28477

Watson,

“Seems like total bullshit to me that everyone’s insurance premiums will probably go up because people don’t have a little self control.”

This is just one more example of how obesity is crushing our health care system. If this becomes a requirement, no doubt the cost of said procedure will be passed along to the rest of the policyholders.

“I can understand if it’s a disease of some sort that CAUSES you to be fat, then I’m all for it, but if you get diabetes or heart problem because you let your weight get way out of hand, well you’re only getting what you earned.”

Yes, health care nowadays has entirely too much assistance for what should be individual responsibility over your own health. I’m no doctor, but I suspect the amount of people who cannot lose weight the traditional way because they have a true medical condition is very, very small.

The worst part of this is that every dollar or appointment taken up by someone who could control their weight but won’t takes away that valuable dollar or appointment from someone who legitimately needs it. Like any resource, health care has limits.

I understand the theory here - get the patients thin so as to prevent the neverending load of health problems down the road, but I have to think - if they need surgery to get thin, what are the chances they are going to take care of themselves after the surgery?

My vote would be against.

[quote]Watson2K5 wrote:
I just read this article on CNN.com

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/03/23/obesity.surgery.ap/index.html

It basically talks about how some states may start requiring insurance companies to cover Gastric Bypass surgery for fat people.

Seems like total bullshit to me that everyone’s insurance premiums will probably go up because people don’t have a little self control.

I can understand if it’s a disease of some sort that CAUSES you to be fat, then I’m all for it, but if you get diabetes or heart problem because you let your weight get way out of hand, well you’re only getting what you earned.
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Agreed, everyone can tip toe around the issue all they want, but there is a direct link to obesity and laziness, disregarding any sort of thyroid or other actual issues (as are as they are).

Genetically inclined or not, I think everyone notices that if someone is 150 pounds overweight they are shoveling heeps of food down there throat. Now when I say laziness it doesn’t mean every aspect of their life they are lazy about but when it comes to personal health they are. I know one of my mother’s friends who had this done, still eats like crap, but has lost a lot of weight.

Gastric Bypass surgery…think about that, people talk about being healthy and losing weight in a healthy way, do you think severly limited calories is all that healthy, the fact is no one needs gastric bypass surgery, hell eat 800 calories a day and you have your gastric bypass surgery, but oops that would require some will power and big people can’t be bothered with that, screw that, just have one of the riskiest surgeries done so you can feel full after eating a spoonful of peanut butter…About people saying they have tried “every diet imaginable”, give me a break, doing a unrealistic short term diet, losing 20 lbs and then going back to eating like a monster is not a life long plan. I just have very little respect for this mindset as I have learned from my own past mistakes.

PS: Just to add I have watched several television specials and issues on this and everytime the obese person was also eating huge amounts of food. There are things that insurance companies should cover and don’t, and this is not one of them.