Hey guys,
Just a couple of questions regarding my two best friends, the front squat & back squat!!
How much weight do you use for a front vs back squat? ( I know for me its generally 20kgs less in the front)
How much weight are you putting up in these lifts @ what body weight?
345 front squat oly style atg
405 back squat oly style atg
190 bw
I dont squat, it is bad for your back and knees. I prefer to do bicep curls, I can do the 35’s now!
[quote]helga wrote:
I dont squat, it is bad for your back and knees. I prefer to do bicep curls, I can do the 35’s now![/quote]
bullshit
I prefer front squats, they are much better for my back, especially after I dislocated a disc last year.my back has been feeling much better since then
[quote]GETSTRENGTH wrote:
Hey guys,
Just a couple of questions regarding my two best friends, the front squat & back squat!!
How much weight do you use for a front vs back squat? ( I know for me its generally 20kgs less in the front)
How much weight are you putting up in these lifts @ what body weight?
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Haven’t maxed out in a while, but on monday I did 4 sets of 5 for Front squats at 195 (195 bw). Doing sets of 8 for back squats today, will let u know.
As soon as I reach a decent weight, I’ll let you know. At the moment, it’s pitiful.
I should add that I haven’t back squatted in many months. I had reached a BW squat for 5 when I decided to try out front squats…and had to drop the weight by over 50% :-s I was so shocked I have only front squatted since.
[quote]helga wrote:
I dont squat, it is bad for your back and knees. I prefer to do bicep curls, I can do the 35’s now![/quote]
You do these with a smith machine right?
Seriously, I can do 225 for reps with a body weight of 205.
Do you think that the front squat will help increasing either your powerlifting squat or deadlift?
I always thought that it was more of an Olympic assistence and bodybuilding exercise.
I remember that Dan John has a diagram on his site that indicates what your front and back squat, clean, power clean, snatch, and overhead squat should be like in order to have a balanced physique. It’s called the X-diagram, I think. I’m sorry I can’t be more detailed, but if you poke around his site, I’m sure you’ll find it.
I just cleaned 220lbs yesterday (yay, almost two wheels), which would imply at least a 220lb front squat for a triple, although I’ve done 235lbs for front squat triple before. For my back squat, I most recently did three reps at 265lbs as part of a workout.
235/265 ~ 88%, but my posterior chain and core strength aren’t great (still working on it).
BW 170-175 (closer to 175, actually).
Front SQ’s are great for increasing your conventional deadlift. Same thing with Zercher (sp?) SQ’s. I don’t do them as much as I should, but front SQ’s rock!
185 x 5 oly style atg front squat
245 x 5 oly style atg back squat
body weight 155
[quote]Julius_Caesar wrote:
Do you think that the front squat will help increasing either your powerlifting squat or deadlift?
I always thought that it was more of an Olympic assistence and bodybuilding exercise.[/quote]
I don’t think front squats do anything for your powerlifting squat, but they do help with the deadlift. They also work the Vastus medialius, which isn’t worked with a powerlifting squat.
[quote]Bad John wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
Do you think that the front squat will help increasing either your powerlifting squat or deadlift?
I always thought that it was more of an Olympic assistence and bodybuilding exercise.
I don’t think front squats do anything for your powerlifting squat, but they do help with the deadlift. They also work the Vastus medialius, which isn’t worked with a powerlifting squat.
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Do they do anything for sumo pulls?
[quote]helga wrote:
I dont squat, it is bad for your back and knees. I prefer to do bicep curls, I can do the 35’s now![/quote]
I trust you are doing these in the squat rack where they belong!
raw
back oly style - 385
front 315 - I set the PR on Monday
body weight 200.5 - this morning
[quote]Bad John wrote:
Julius_Caesar wrote:
Do you think that the front squat will help increasing either your powerlifting squat or deadlift?
I always thought that it was more of an Olympic assistence and bodybuilding exercise.
I don’t think front squats do anything for your powerlifting squat, but they do help with the deadlift. They also work the Vastus medialius, which isn’t worked with a powerlifting squat.
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What?!?
This is fascinating. Please elaborate as to how one manages to completely exclude the vastus from a PL squat, and additionally, why a front squat would be of no value for a lifter in building their squat.
I eagerly await your reply.
[quote]bigblue244 wrote:
185 x 5 oly style atg front squat
245 x 5 oly style atg back squat
body weight 155[/quote]
Nice numbers, mate. I should reach 185x5 FS in 5-6 weeks. Of course, I’m heavier than you, so more power to ya. 
90kg/200lbs x 5 atg front squat
115kg/260lbs x 5 atg back squat
All raw and at 88kg bw.
As of last week:
Front 225lb x 5 (past parallel but hammies do not touch calves yet)
Back 245lb x 5 (same here)
BW 74kg
ps: my left knee hurts like fuck though… still trying to figure out what i am doing wrong.