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French Soldiers View on US Troops in Afganistan


#1

http://www.warriorlodge.com/blogs/news/16298760-a-french-soldiers-view-of-us-soldiers-in-afghanistan


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#4

Oorah!


#5

[quote]2busy wrote:
http://www.warriorlodge.com/blogs/news/16298760-a-french-soldiers-view-of-us-soldiers-in-afghanistan[/quote]

Well certainly it was very kind. It almost seems not real. Is this real?


#6

Yes, they all play GI Joe very well.

They look fantastic - when winning against midgets.
The moment the midget keeps on fighting, you fold, because the US can’t take casualties for shit.

Brit Officers in WW1 stormed german trenches with footballs and umbrellas to prove a point, fully knowing that they would get smashed to bloody pulp.
Soviets, frenchis, the vietnamese, they all lost amounts of soldiers that would give US generals an instant heart attack.
This kind of tenacity and toughness is gone nowadays, and good riddance!

Keep telling yourselves how great your toy soldiers and how accomplished your middle eastern war missions are.


#7

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Yes, they all play GI Joe very well.

They look fantastic - when winning against midgets.
The moment the midget keeps on fighting, you fold, because the US can’t take casualties for shit.
[/quote]Because THAT’S how you measure a country’s “toughness”, by how many casualties they can “take”? You’re fucking insane.[quote]

Brit Officers in WW1 stormed german trenches with footballs and umbrellas to prove a point, [/quote]Bet that was great for morale. Did they get voted officer of the year?[quote] fully knowing that they would get smashed to bloody pulp.
Soviets, frenchis, the vietnamese, they all lost amounts of soldiers that would give US generals an instant heart attack.
This kind of tenacity and toughness is gone nowadays, and good riddance!

Keep telling yourselves how great your toy soldiers and how accomplished your middle eastern war missions are.[/quote]

I really don’t think you want to see first hand what happens when the US Military opens up a can of whoop ass… You just might shit yourself.


#8

You can talk shit about the politicians all you want. THEY are the ones who decide who goes where and for how long. But leave our fucking soldiers out of it. They’ll show up, fight and die well whenever they are commanded to on whatever mission they are assigned to. Talking shit about soldiers is cheap. If you are not on the front line fighting, then you really need to shut the fuck up.


#9

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Yes, they all play GI Joe very well.

They look fantastic - when winning against midgets.
The moment the midget keeps on fighting, you fold, because the US can’t take casualties for shit.

Brit Officers in WW1 stormed german trenches with footballs and umbrellas to prove a point, fully knowing that they would get smashed to bloody pulp.
Soviets, frenchis, the vietnamese, they all lost amounts of soldiers that would give US generals an instant heart attack.
This kind of tenacity and toughness is gone nowadays, and good riddance!

Keep telling yourselves how great your toy soldiers and how accomplished your middle eastern war missions are.[/quote]

Lol, no.


#10

So lemme get this straight- you are on the front lines getting hammered by artillery?
No? Why won’t you shut up then?

Or better: please stop masturbating over the virtual strength of a an army that gets consistently smashed by 3rd world countries.

With the soldiers being so beautiful and perfect, who do you blame for losing all these wars vs Somalis, Iraqis, Vietcong etc?
(Bonus Question: What do you think would have happened if Stalin would have been pissed off and decided to continue west after '45?)


#11

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Or better: please stop masturbating over the virtual strength of a an army that gets consistently smashed by 3rd world countries. [/quote]

Lol, no…

[quote]
With the soldiers being so beautiful and perfect, who do you blame for losing all these wars vs Somalis, Iraqis, Vietcong etc? [/quote]

Politicians.

[quote]
(Bonus Question: What do you think would have happened if Stalin would have been pissed off and decided to continue west after '45?)[/quote]

He would of gotten crushed by the U.S.


#12

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Or better: please stop masturbating over the virtual strength of a an army that gets consistently smashed by 3rd world countries. [/quote]

[/quote]

Hahaha. Yes, Stormin’ Norman got murdered by that damn Iraqi Republican Guard…lol.


#13

But on a serious note, this blog story sounds like a fantasy :(. I wish it were a real opinion piece but it sounds just too fanciful… I hope I am wrong though.

Although the depiction of fighting tactics = “just charge” sounds just like a devildogs’ twisted mindset ;). Damn jarheads :slight_smile:


#14

Great article 2B. Will share!


#15

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Or better: please stop masturbating over the virtual strength of a an army that gets consistently smashed by 3rd world countries. [/quote]

[/quote]

Hahaha. Yes, Stormin’ Norman got murdered by that damn Iraqi Republican Guard…lol. [/quote]

No shit. If we took the gloves off vs. ISIS, victory would be measured in hours, not years.


#16

[quote]Brett620 wrote:

[quote]Aragorn wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Schwarzfahrer wrote:
Or better: please stop masturbating over the virtual strength of a an army that gets consistently smashed by 3rd world countries. [/quote]

[/quote]

Hahaha. Yes, Stormin’ Norman got murdered by that damn Iraqi Republican Guard…lol. [/quote]

No shit. If we took the gloves off vs. ISIS, victory would be measured in hours, not years. [/quote]

Agree.

The only reason they still alive is our Marquess of Queensberry honor code.


#17

[quote]2busy wrote:
http://www.warriorlodge.com/blogs/news/16298760-a-french-soldiers-view-of-us-soldiers-in-afghanistan[/quote]

Nice find.

This attitude is typical of fellow soldiers who are entrenched alongside in the field tho. We just need to hear their stories more often.


#18

But I’m sure the tactics will be corrected by Bismark…


#19

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

He would of gotten crushed by the U.S.
[/quote]

No offense, but I doubt the US public would have had the will to stomach the losses necessary to even contemplate defeating the Russians. There were far too many poor Russian peasants with a ruthless leader more than willing to sacrifice millions of soldiers. If he’d attacked, about the only hope the allies would have had would be an uprising from within the Russian ranks or a generous application of atomic weapons.

As painful as it is to admit, it was the Russians who defeated the Germans in WW2 with some support from the other allies who mostly just kept the western front open enough to tie up some German troops and contributed to the demoralization of the German population through bombing.

Things like D day are small scale in comparison to battles on the eastern front. And that was only even possible because 80% of the German military was on the other side of the continent

While this doesn’t diminish the courage and valor of the individual soldiers in these battles, most people vastly over estimate US military power back then. We generally even overestimate the importance of our manufacturing in winning the war which was really late to the fight and contributed only a little to the eastern front where the vast majority of the fighting was done. I also don’t mean to claim glory for the Russian armies who’s tactics were abominable, but their leaders were far more willing to do anything necessary to win. Things not available to the commander of a free people.

The Russians could have absolutely stomped the rest of the allies as the armies stood at the end of the war.


#20

Stalin getting crushed by the US?
That’s quite a childish fantasy.
The red army would have smashed you harder then Angry Chicken PIVs feminists in their own private fantasies.

Without nuclear force, Europe would have become red.
So my thanks go to Einstein and not Captain America.

And the “politicians” angle has been played by german rightwingers right after WW1…

But, oh well, I am in PWI - the gay christian club where some years ago experts like you told me that the US “defeated” the “insurgents” soundly and that the middle east is now a democracy.