I’m interested to know what people’s ‘Free Testosterone’ levels were:
Prior to TRT
Currently while on TRT
I ask as there doesn’t seem to be a huge amount of discussion regarding free T levels and seems to be concentrated more on Total T despite the massive differences in people’s SHBG
5 to 7 ng/dl pre TRT
22 to 30 ng/dl trough /peak (5 years on TRT/TRT +)
No one really talks huge amount about free T since we still dont have harmonized methods and ref ranges. Most dudes completely confused about units/methods and I do not blame them.
Thanks for your levels
Those free T levels look amazing even without the reference ranges
Was your shbg low prior to TRT?
It’ll be interesting to see what others levels are
55-60 nmol/L SHBG
380 to 400 ng/dl TT
Best data we have to date would indicate reasonable healthy 95%tile ref range on FT by equilibrium dialysis would be 10 to 20 ng/dl (TT by LCMS).
Question then becomes what is normal and healthly for you across that range.
My Free T levels are approx 0.45 nmol/l whilst on clomid, so interesting to see what people’s free T levels are on TRT
~ 13 ng/dl.
Which method used to test? Or calculated?
May 27, 2023, 11:58am
4.4 ng/dl Pre Trt
20 ng/dl (avg from 7 years on TRT)
@readalot looks like a replied to you instead of @bbb-steve
What are your thoughts on me restarting TRT when I’m averaging 0.45 nmol/l free T on clomid with very little side effects?
May 27, 2023, 6:52pm
I’ve always thought of Clomid as something you try to improve HPTA function before committing to TRT. I’ve never met anybody using it long term so I can’t speak to its efficacy for that application.
TT and SHBG?
Careful which calculator is being used.
Vermeulen will put you within 10-20% typical of ED. Tru-T is a disaster when calculating for higher SHBG guys.
I actually have low SHBG. Clomid only appears to increase my TT to approximately 17 nmol/l however due to the low shbg, my free T comes out at approximately 0.45 nmol/l
Yes calculated using TT, Albumin and SHBG
Would be about 20 using cFTV which I trust.
TT 490 ng/dl
SHBG 21 nmol/l
FT 13 ng/dl assuming default albumin
TruT would spit out 17 ng/dl (more outrageous for higher SHBG).
Yes that’s initially what my intentions were when starting clomid, but due to it working well I’ve remained on it far longer than planned
I think if I had no other choice I could quite easily get by forever with clomid only, however as I’ve only ever been on useless uk nhs testosterone protocols I think it’s time to see how I feel on a good protocol of sustanon injections weekly plus 500iu hcg 2x/week
I have an appointment with a private TRT doctor on the 22nd
TT - 16.7 nmol/l
SHBG - 17 nmol/l
Albumin - 48 g/L