Yep. Brawls is the KEY word. In a “brawl”, the form is terrible, looping punches and chins straight up. You might survive a “brawl” on chin alone from some smaller shots, shots that had no power, leg drive, “arm punches” if you will.
But once someone gets his feet under him and lands an uppercut, or REAL hook, or hard cross, that’s lights out sunshine.
Case in point. Leben was known to brawl, blitz guys and hope he got lucky while weathering the storm. Silva never brawls, straight punches and crisp kicks all day long. And he landed something like 30 unanswered strikes before the KO in their fight. Iron chin doesn’t mean shit if you let your opponent tee off on your face like a baby harp seal.
A little off topic: Alot of MMA guys have no idea how to actually box. They learn some bastardized form of ‘mma striking’ that is all looping punches or some shit and hands low. Chuck made it work, I love him, but some people can’t pull off that style. Hell, most people can’t pull off the Philly Shell (kind of similar, but more technical than the aforementioned ‘hands down’ style). When a guy with a real technical ability comes into a division (Silva and GSP come to mind) they decimate because no one has the tools to counter.
Last thing I gotta say. If you lined every UFC fighter up in a row, and had someone from their respective weight classes punch them square in the jaw with a right cross, how many would still have their “iron chin” rating? Not many I’d bet.[/quote]
Gotta agree with pretty much everything you said.
There are some guys with legitimate “iron chins” though (“Cabbage”, Mark Hunt, BJ, Hendo) but even them, if they get tagged right on the button by a big puncher they are going to get rocked.