I've heard other people say the same thing. But the thing is, why would "squeezing/stretching the muscles" with 40lb dumbbells for flyes provide any better growth for a very developed muscle than doing the same with 15lb dumbbells for a new trainer. It seems like its more accepted that its OK when one is stronger, but I can't really see it contributing more growth relative to his overall growth than the same for a new trainer ya know?
Stu am I correct in thinking that the below pics are before your switch to more bodybuilding type training?
This brings up an important distinction I may not have made clear. I do not mean that one should get "stronger" by any means possible through making their form worse. I do see benching 315 with a controlled eccentric, explosive eccentric, squeeze, etc. being better than unracking 405, letting it fall to your chest with a huge bounce lifting your ass off the bench and getting it up with assistance. I believe that control should be used since momentum and the like are not the muscles working. BUT my point is I believe with the first method the goal is to get stronger with that form. 30lb increase on bench using that form vs. 30lb increase using a drop and bounce will in my opinion result in more growth for sure. What I'm talking about is guys who were benching 350 for reps, then dropped it and now just do lighter weight, machines, flyes, etc. just focusing on intensity techniques and the like....how much additional muscle are these guys putting on really? Stu even mentioned in his thread that when he switched out heavy incline benching for incline DB flyes or bench (I don't remember which) he not only didn't gain size there but actually lost some upper chest mass. This does, however, seem to contradict his overall training methodology as mentioned above.
Good thoughts on it, that could probably turn "1 top set" into 2-3 top/working sets if those 2nd and 3rd to last sets are using a form that makes it significantly harder.