[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
bigblue244 wrote:
doogie wrote:
bigblue244 wrote:
first of all, don’t talk to me like an idiot like i don’t know who ben johnson is.
First of all, dumbass, if you had clicked on the link you would have seen that I cut and pasted word for word from the article. I didn’t “talk” like anything.
second, stop being a douchebag and maybe like, turn on ESPN or watch the NFL Network and you will see that each year there are dozens of NFL draft prospects that run sub 4.3s and sub 4.2s, two years ago, the punt returner for the Buffalo Bills ran a 4.18. Deion Sanders showed up late to the NFL combine, ran a 4.28, and left. the rest is history.
You don’t want to get into a football discussion with me, speedy.
Again, dumbass, read the article:
Track coaches go to Pro Timing Days, and they see scouts starting their stopwatches with their thumb, which has a slower reaction time than the index finger. They see them crowding the finish line and anticipating – guessing, basically – when someone will cross it. They see running surfaces that weren’t professionally measured or leveled. They see no starter’s gun, no automatic timing device, no wind gauge.
Grizzled track coaches love to say that the “clock doesn’t lie.” Well, it does in football.
Say someone clocks a hand-timed 4.35 in an NFL workout.
The accepted standard to convert a hand-timed event to its automatically timed equivalent is to round up to the nearest tenth of a second – in this case 4.4 – and add .24 seconds. Now you’re at 4.64.
Most football 40s don’t go on a starter’s pistol but on an athlete’s motion. The average reaction time among elite sprinters (from the gun to the moment they exert pressure on the starting block’s electronic pads) is about .15 seconds; for a football player with little track experience it probably would be closer to .2. Add that in, and you have 4.84.
also, if you knew anything about track and field, you would know that in the 100m dash, there are phases to your race, i.e. explosion phase, acceleration phase, drive phase, maintenance phase. running a 100m dash is extremely different than running a 40 yard dash.
now to explain it in laymen’s terms for you, the explosion phase, accleration phase, and drive phase of a 100m dash are much longer than a 40 yard dash because fo the distance so it takes more time. so if you take that 4.38 second 40 yard dash and do the math to figure out what that “pace” would be for the 100m dash (110 yards) you would get that his 100m dash time should have been 12.045 seconds. he ran a 9.79 because you build relative speed. he runs much faster as he builds speed.
If I knew anything about track?
That was a nice try, and you would have had a really good point if the following wasn’t also true:
Johnson was so preposterously fast that he went through 50 meters in 5.52 seconds and 60 meters in 6.37 ? both under the current world records at those distances.
His splits at 50 and 60 meters were both UNDER the world records for the 50 and 60 meters. Let that sink in before you try to respond.
you are comparing me to one of the fastest men to ever walk the earth. obviously i am not even in the same class as this man, nor did i have all of this sophisticated technology to time my 40 or whatever. i am just stating what a few guys timed me with watches. i never said it was accurate. i was just merely stating what my time was.
next time you want to throw out some stupid shit at me, make sure u know what ur talking about.
You know absolutely nothing about what I know. I’ll admit I have more of a football background than track.
You posted with pride about your school record 400m relay this year. What was that–42.50?
I tell you what, speedy. If you know so much about track, why are you at crappy a junior college instead of somewhere with a good track program?
To be clear, I didn’t just decide to call your track team crappy to be rude. I’m basing my assessment off of last weekends NCAA Division III New England Men’s Track and Field Championships. Your team placed 13th. For Christ sake, MIT placed third! MIT? Did they pull out the floppy javelins on you or what?
Not to be a total ass, but from what I can tell your best 100m time this season was 11.40. Your school had a HIGH SCHOOL meet on campus earlier in the year. You would have placed fifth in it. Also, from what I can tell, your best 200m time this season is 23.74. That would have earned you eigth place. In the high school meet.
To be fair, maybe the weather conditions that weekend were just absolutely ideal for track or something.
Irv Black Invite - Close Competition Overshadows Poor Weather …
(Apr 22, 2006) In a typical reversal of early New England weather, rain and cold hampered many of those competing at the final session of the 2nd Annual Irv Black High School Invitational held at the Trinity College Track facility on Saturday.
Oops, I guess not.
Do you want to compare your times to Regional HIGH SCHOOL track meets in Texas?
4x100m relay
Region I–Your college team would have placed an impressive 8th.
1 Odessa Permian 41.70
2 Lewisville Flower Mound 41.82
3 North Crowley 41.87
4 Duncanville High School 42.01
5 Mansfield High School 42.12
6 DE Soto High School 42.33
7 Lewisville High School 42.45
Region II–Not even close to placing here.
- GARLAND ‘A’ 41.25
- TYLER ‘A’ 41.58
- KLEIN FOREST ‘A’ 41.80
- DALLAS CARTER ‘A’ 41.86
- LUFKIN ‘A’ 41.88
- CONROE THE WOODLANDS ‘A’ 42.09
- KILLEEN SHOEMAKER ‘A’ 42.17
Region III–Maybe a 9th place?
1 Houston Eisenhower HS 40.49
2 Alief Elsik HS 40.94
3 Spring Westfield 41.09
4 Beaumont West Brook HS 41.33
5 Houston Cypress Fairbanks 41.59
6 League City Clear Creek H 41.94
7 Houston Aldine HS 42.28
8 Baytown Lee HS 42.48
Region IV–You would have placed third here!
1 Converse Judson ‘A’ 41.89
2 San Antonio Madison ‘A’ 42.34
3 Schertz Clemens ‘A’ 42.70
How about your 100m time of 11.40?
Region I–nope
- Baron Batch Midland High Sch 10.64
- Nelson Oneygbu Lewisville High 10.72
- Josh Banks Duncanville High 10.75
- Josh Stephens Odessa Permian 10.78
- Denny Nedd Lewisville Flowe 10.79
- Cyrus Gray DE Soto High Sch 10.91
- Long Dao Keller High Scho 11.00
- Melvin Stephenson South Grand Prar 11.14
Region II–nope
- Montague, Ryan CO WOODLANDS 10.69
- Buckram, Donald COPPERAS COVE 10.73
- Dungey, Mychal AUSTIN 10.89
- Alexander, Markell DALLAS CARTER 10.90
- Aje, Kevin GA LAKEVIEW 10.94
- Thompson, Leroy CS A&M 10.96
- Mitchell, Shane HUNTSVILLE 11.10
- Patton, Leon DALLAS WHITE 11.22
Region III–nope
1 Myers, Brandon Eisenhower 10.54
2 Johnson, Randy Eisenhower 10.64
3 Woolfolk, Troy Dulles 10.65
4 Johnson, Daniel Spring Woods 10.66
5 Usoro, Andrew Cinco Ranch 10.72
6. Goldsmith, Philip Cy Fair 10.82
7. Asumnu, Ricky Elsik 10.92
8. Johnson, Ershein Cy Fair 10.99
Region IV–nope
- James, Randez Converse Judson 10.61
- Price, Tim CC Carroll 10.69
- Adeeko, Benga SA Taft 10.93
- Garza, B.J. Rio Grande City 10.94
- Wright, Marcus SA Reagan 10.96
- Gomez, Marcus SA Jefferson 11.03
- Padalecki, Dustin SA Highlands 11.10
- Castellanos, Edgar McAllen 11.35
So, speedy, what exactly qualifies you as a track expert?
the crappy junior college i go to is actually one of the best colleges, not junior colleges, in the country. it is ranked 24th in the nation for liberal arts. i am here to get an education not to go to the olympics. as far as my team goes, there are 30 members on the team and 4 that participate in field events. we are not a big team, and barely have any funding. we cannot compete with large teams due to sheer numbers. but aside from all of that, you are personally calling me out and decided to do some research on me to prove your points, which i must say is somewhat weird/stalker-ish. i usually don’t disrespect people because i absolutely hate when i am disrespected so i know how it makes other people feel and i assure you i am biting my fucking tongue right now from saying some shit to you that i think you absolutely deserve but will not stoop to your level. if you knew anything about me, i mean anything, you would know that i don’t like to get personal about myself for numerous reasons. you would also know that within the last two years, i was in an almost fatal car accident in which i lacerated my liver, lost 75% of my blood, and was in the hospital for 2 months due to surgery complications. doctors told me that i should not participate in contact sports, but i did anyways once i was better and tried playing football while wearing a flak jacket that severely prohibited my mobility. i then broke my hip in my third game back and had to have complete hip reconstruction surgery the summer before going into my freshmen year at college. what did this do besides make me go to a “crappy junior college” as you put it? well it took from me numerous scholarship opportunities at 1-aa and division 2 schools to play football because i was pretty good and people did think i was fast from my 40 times, even though as you say, they are shit. i am not a wealthy person nor do i live in a wealthy family so this was absolutely devastating that i could not go to the schools that would help with tuition. so what did i do? i worked my fucking ass off to get into Trinity which is a great academic school and will have me going places i never would have been able to if i went to a community college or what not, and am working during the year and 2 jobs during the summer because i am on financial aid and will have to pay off student loans. i also had to quit football, and learn how to fucking walk again after my hip surgery. but since i am a competitive person and love sports i decided to try track. after extensive rehab i came out and ran the 55m in 6.64 seconds, which if you look, isn’t that bad and had me 11th in D3 New Englands. then i pulled my left calf, missed the end of the season, came out for outdoor season, ran an 11.40 the first meet and pulled my right hamstring two meets later and just ran the 4x100 for the rest of the year until i pulled my right groin in the last leg of the 4x100 where we ran a 42.50 and would have ran much faster had i not pulled it. the reason for all my injuries is because after a hip surgery like the one i had, your body does too much to compensate for specific weaknesses so my body is completely off-whack and mis-aligned. but i don’t let that shit hold me back but i do not complain about it, i just love to compete. if i ever get healthy i guarantee you i will be one of the best sprinters in division 3, and i actually like people like you to doubt me because without them, i would have quit long ago, and also i would have no one to throw it in their face once i prove them wrong. i do not care what you think about me, because you don’t even know me, but i just want to let you know that i am sorry for personally offending you, for as you have pointed out i know nothing about you as well. i was merely trying to defend myself, and i guess looked like an ass in the process. if you still want to say that my 40 time is shit, that’s fine, and to the guy that posted saying ‘since when do you run the 40 yard against people?’ i didnt mean you actually race someone, i meant the people you are running them with at the time, hence you compare your times to them and to them your times are relative, so essentially you are running against them. i hope that clears everything up. if not then it’s whatever.
You sound like a GAMEDOG; you got my vote. Good luck to you and I hope you accomplish your goals.
Steve[/quote]
Thanks bro and thanks for your support, i really appreciate it. i’m not going to sit here and say that i have it worse than anybody else, and while i may be able to suggest that God dealt me a shitty hand, i just got to play with the cards i’ve been given and keep going.
no sense in complaining, just wastes time. hopefully this summer i won’t be breaking my hip or whatever and will be able to train. i’ll keep you posted with how everything goes.
bigblue