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Might as well start keeping track of it:
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news〈=en&length=long&idelement=5778&backpage=summaries&critere=&countryname=&rowcur=

I thought you meant Iditarod :slight_smile:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I thought you meant Iditarod :)[/quote]

No. That would conjure up thoughts of the Palins, and we wouldn’t want that.

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Remember when Abdul Rahman was imprisoned in Afghanistan briefly for converting to Christianity? The Afghan politicians kept trying to say he was insane, and he kept saying he wasn’t. The imams agreed with him (that he was quite sane), and called for his beheading. Luckily, we bailed him out of that one.

Muhammad made it pretty clear: “Whoever changes his Islamic religion, then kill him.”

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/083.sbt.html#009.083.017

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/084.sbt.html#009.084.057

Egypt:
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news〈=en&length=long&idelement=5826

Somolia:
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news&length=long〈=en&idelement=5661

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PR, can you please elaborate on your thoughts on this subject? The more you write the happier I am!

BTW, I feel like, lately, your a little shy of your 2/week “I hate Muslims” average. Come on man, step it up!

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I thought you meant Iditarod :)[/quote]

lol, Still drinking my morning coffee, and I thought the exact same, lol.

[quote]Chushin wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Egypt:
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news〈=en&length=long&idelement=5826

ISTANBUL, February 26 (Compass Direct News) ? In the latest hearing of a Muslim-born Egyptian?s effort to officially convert to Christianity, opposing lawyers advocated he be convicted of ?apostasy,? or leaving Islam, and sentenced to death.[/quote]

Article 47 of the Egyptian civil law guarantees freedom of religion.

The country has been under state of emergency for 30 years, where a dictator rules by decree, and shits all over the constitution and legal documents.

The same dictator gets billions of dollars from Washington.

Americans bitch about the legal status of minorities in the dictatorship they’ve been supporting, arming and financing for three decades.

What’s wrong with that picture?

We should probably add this in too.

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/03/muslim-president-of-chechnya-endorses-honour-killings/

Muslim President of Chechnya Endorses Honour Killings

The Muslim president of the state of Chechnya has endorsed the right of male relatives to carry out ?honour killings? after seven young women were found shot dead.

President Ramzan Kadyrov said the women, whose bodies were found dumped by the roadside, had ?loose morals? and were rightfully shot.

?If a woman runs around and if a man runs around with her, both of them are killed,? Mr Kadyrov said outside a mosque in Grozny where he had attended afternoon prayers.

The 32-year-old former militia leader is carrying out a campaign to impose Islamic values and strengthen the traditional customs of predominantly Muslim Chechnya.

Mr Kadyrov?s attempt to create an Islamic society violates the Russian constitution, which guarantees equal rights for women and a separation of church and state. Chechnya remains officially part of the Russian Federation, but its Islamist population has been the source of a large number of violent terrorist attacks on Russian targets.

In an effort to ward off Muslim extremists who make even Mr Kadyrov seem moderate, the Kremlin has allowed him to enforce stricter Muslim values in Chechnya.

?No one can tell us not to be Muslims,? he said outside the mosque. ?If anyone says I cannot be a Muslim, he is my enemy.?

Few dare to challenge Mr Kadyrov?s rule in this southern Russian region of more than a million people, which is only now emerging from the devastation of two wars in the past 15 years.

The fighting between Islamic separatists and Russian troops, compounded by atrocities on both sides, claimed tens of thousands of lives and terrorised civilians.

Mr Kadyrov describes women as the property of their husbands and says their main role is to bear children. He encourages men to take more than one wife, even though polygamy is illegal in Russia. Women and girls are now required to wear headscarves in all schools, universities and government offices.

Recommended Reading: The Wolves of Islam ? Russia and the Faces of Chechen Terror, by Paul Murphy. Have you ever wondered who is behind the continuing terrorist atrocities in Russia? This book reveals the truth behind terrorism in modern Russia and the radical Islamist terrorists who are behind the continuing conflict in Chechnya. It contains astonishing evidence of Saudi-born leaders who have directed much of the violence and is vital to understanding modern Russia, and the threat which Islam poses to that nation. ?Murphy?s analysis is ?no holds barred? in describing the brutality of the Islamic warriors. Kidnappings, torture and mass slaughter are all part of their method of operation.? - Paul M Weyrich, Chairman and CEO, Free Congress Foundation. Softcover, 281 pages. £12.00 Click here to buy from Excalibur.

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[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
PR, can you please elaborate on your thoughts on this subject? The more you write the happier I am!

BTW, I feel like, lately, your a little shy of your 2/week “I hate Muslims” average. Come on man, step it up![/quote]

He’s trying to keep up with the weekly “I hate America” average.

Man, give the guy a break, will ya?

[quote]Sifu wrote:
We should probably add this in too.

http://bnp.org.uk/2009/03/muslim-president-of-chechnya-endorses-honour-killings/

Muslim President of Chechnya Endorses Honour Killings
.[/quote]

I thought Ramzan Kadyrov was a Ruskie stooge. So, am I wrong on this?

[quote]lixy wrote:

What’s wrong with that picture?[/quote]

It’s not Pakistan?

[quote]lixy wrote:
Article 47 of the Egyptian civil law guarantees freedom of religion.

[/quote]

For Christians and Jews as well?

The first thing that will be changed if an Islamic fundameltalist government takes over.

I’m sure of that.

edit- Funny how the article you quoted is somehow Musharraf’s doing! Like it’s only happening in Egypt or something.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
PR, can you please elaborate on your thoughts on this subject? The more you write the happier I am!

[/quote]

Who can separate a fool from his folly? Surely not I:
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/084.sbt.html

[quote]lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
Egypt:
http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news〈=en&length=long&idelement=5826

ISTANBUL, February 26 (Compass Direct News) ? In the latest hearing of a Muslim-born Egyptian?s effort to officially convert to Christianity, opposing lawyers advocated he be convicted of ?apostasy,? or leaving Islam, and sentenced to death.

Article 47 of the Egyptian civil law guarantees freedom of religion.

The country has been under state of emergency for 30 years, where a dictator rules by decree, and shits all over the constitution and legal documents.

The same dictator gets billions of dollars from Washington.

Americans bitch about the legal status of minorities in the dictatorship they’ve been supporting, arming and financing for three decades.

What’s wrong with that picture?[/quote]

Good one lixy. Way to turn an issue of Egyptian Islamic legal scholars calling for the execution of a Christian into the fault of the United States.

Better the dictator we support than the Ikhwan. The more Islamic the government, the more Christians get persecuted and killed.

[quote]Chushin wrote:
lixy wrote:
Chushin wrote:

Article 47 of the Egyptian civil law guarantees freedom of religion.

The country has been under state of emergency for 30 years, where a dictator rules by decree, and shits all over the constitution and legal documents.

The same dictator gets billions of dollars from Washington.

Americans bitch about the legal status of minorities in the dictatorship they’ve been supporting, arming and financing for three decades.

What’s wrong with that picture?

  1. The photographer is aiming at irrelevant subject matter.

  2. The fascist Muslim element is missing.[/quote]

So, to summarize, you don’t want to bother with the legal aspects, the exceptional state of emergency the country is in, what country is the main backer of Mubarrak, or that the prosecution efforts in this case are futile. You’re just looking to validate whatever hasty generalization ideas you formed about my religion.

Fantastic!