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Flu Shots: One of the Best Scams Ever


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"There is also a lack of evidence that young children benefit from flu shots. A systematic review of 51 studies involving 260,000 children age 6 to 23 months found no evidence that the flu vaccine is any more effective than a placebo (Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2006;1:CD004879).

"There is some evidence that flu shots cause Alzheimerâ??s disease. This most likely is a result of combining mercury with aluminum and formaldehyde, which renders them much more toxic together through a synergistic effect than each would be alone. One investigator has reported that people who received the flu vaccine each year for 3 to 5 years had a ten-fold greater chance of developing Alzheimerâ??s disease than people who did not have any flu shots (Int J Clin Invest 2005;1:1â??4).

" A creditable hypothesis that explains the seasonal nature of flu is that influenza is a vitamin D deficiency disease. Cannell and colleagues offer this hypothesis in "Epidemic Influenza and Vitamin D" (Epidemiol Infect 2006;134:1129â??40). They quote Hippocrates (circa 400 B.C.), who said, "Whoever wishes to investigate medicine properly should proceed thus: in the first place to consider the seasons of the year." Vitamin D levels in the blood fall to their lowest point during flu seasons. Unable to be protected by the bodyâ??s own antibiotics (antimicrobial peptides) that this gene-expresser engineers, a person with a low vitamin D blood level is more vulnerable to contracting colds, influenza, and other respiratory infections (e.g., respiratory syncytial virus)."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller27.html


#2

Some of us have been tempered through tough and healthy living, we don’t need that shit.


#3

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
"There is also a lack of evidence that young children benefit from flu shots. A systematic review of 51 studies involving 260,000 children age 6 to 23 months found no evidence that the flu vaccine is any more effective than a placebo (Cochrane Database Syst Rev. 2006;1:CD004879).[/quote]

What nonsense and quackery, though not surprising given the man that wrote the article. The study cited actually didn’t find that the flu vaccine wasn’t effective for “young children” it found that there wasn’t any evidence for effectiveness in children younger than two years old. For children older than that, the data were very obviously demonstrating efficacy and effectiveness. This actually fits with their inability to form sufficient antibody response and as it clearly states in the paper, only applied to children younger than 2 years of age.

As the author is conveniently known for doing, the citation is difficult to locate. However, there is a published article demonstrating that the influenza vaccine may decrease the risk of Alzheimers. Conveniently enough, this was left out of the author’s “review”.

For those deficient in vitamin D, certainly it is possible that it may be beneficial in preventing influenza to some degree (not completely). However, it remains to be seen whether vitamin D will actually provide this protection despite the claims by laymen. To suggest, however, that one pop a vitamin D every day and that it will perform better than an established method such as vaccination is just plain nonsense…a common theme it appears. Influenza and many other infectious diseases are often just a little more complicated than one simple factor as is the case with many diseases. That doesn’t stop people from claiming they have the magic cure, however.


#4

[quote]enchilnada wrote:
As the author is conveniently known for doing, the citation is difficult to locate. However, there is a published article demonstrating that the influenza vaccine may decrease the risk of Alzheimers. Conveniently enough, this was left out of the author’s “review”.

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From the link: “Exposure to influenza vaccine was also related to a lower risk of Alzheimer’s disease, but the association did not reach statistical significance.”

One study says one thing, another says something else.

I would conclude that the reason we have a ‘cold and flu season’ is because people spend too much time indoors during the winters months. This allows disease to spread AND reduces our exposure to sunlight. We need sunlight to create our Vitamin D.

There’s an interesting article here on T-Nation (D is for Doping) or something like that. Good read.


#5

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
enchilnada wrote:
As the author is conveniently known for doing, the citation is difficult to locate. However, there is a published article demonstrating that the influenza vaccine may decrease the risk of Alzheimers. Conveniently enough, this was left out of the author’s “review”.

From the link: “Exposure to influenza vaccine was also related to a lower risk of Alzheimer’s disease, but the association did not reach statistical significance.”

One study says one thing, another says something else.

I would conclude that the reason we have a ‘cold and flu season’ is because people spend too much time indoors during the winters months. This allows disease to spread AND reduces our exposure to sunlight. We need sunlight to create our Vitamin D.

There’s an interesting article here on T-Nation (D is for Doping) or something like that. Good read.

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We all know my livelihood depends on vaccine production so I may be a little biased,

But the man is right about vitamin D, one holistic doctor got into an argument with me about the venom vaccines and started on this. Then he showed me all the research he had and not one was done between people with normal levels of vit D and using extra, it was all deficiencies and then supplementing, so like with everything if you are lacking, yes it will help, but there are limits to the benefits if your blood levels are good and I would wager to guess most on here use some form of multi vitamin so they would receive little benefit from this.

And it is important to not vit D is fat soluble so you can build up toxic levels in your body if you become too zealous in your supplementation.


#6

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
enchilnada wrote:
As the author is conveniently known for doing, the citation is difficult to locate. However, there is a published article demonstrating that the influenza vaccine may decrease the risk of Alzheimers. Conveniently enough, this was left out of the author’s “review”.

From the link: “Exposure to influenza vaccine was also related to a lower risk of Alzheimer’s disease, but the association did not reach statistical significance.”

One study says one thing, another says something else.

I would conclude that the reason we have a ‘cold and flu season’ is because people spend too much time indoors during the winters months. This allows disease to spread AND reduces our exposure to sunlight. We need sunlight to create our Vitamin D.

There’s an interesting article here on T-Nation (D is for Doping) or something like that. Good read.

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Yes, studies will often present conflicting data; this is the reason they are not intended to be used as “facts”.

Regarding the vitamin D hypothesis, it is an interesting one and does have some epidemiological support, but as noted previously, with complex infectious diseases, it is rarely the case that a simple cause is the answer but rather a combination of varying factors. There are good data demonstrating that temperature and humidity also play an important role in transmission, which argues strongly against the notion that being indoors and insufficient vitamin D production are the sole or primary causes.


#7

[quote]apbt55 wrote:

And it is important to not vit D is fat soluble so you can build up toxic levels in your body if you become too zealous in your supplementation.
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The amounts needed for toxicity would have to be extremely high. Check out the Doping w/D article on this site


#8

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
apbt55 wrote:

And it is important to not vit D is fat soluble so you can build up toxic levels in your body if you become too zealous in your supplementation.

The amounts needed for toxicity would have to be extremely high. Check out the Doping w/D article on this site[/quote]

Yes I have seen the Vieth review, I still stay leary of excessive fat soluble substances. Since I still compete once in a while and cut weight.