@lufc12 Hey man how’s things? Any updates?
I talked to Mariano not too long ago. He’s a knowledgable guy but I was really hoping he would know more about our problem more specifically to be honest. He pointed me in the right direction though. I’ll make a summary of his advice.
I’ve been considering creating a new forum website dedicated to our problem (similar to this one but everyone focusing on the same problem and less misinformation). Would you be interested?
Hey pal!
Sorry to hear you didn’t get the answers you wanted! Happy to join you in a more specific forum etc if you need help etc let me know.
I’m still in same position up and down days! I wish it would just be back to normal again now ffs haha
Hi mate, I’ve made the site. I did post it here but my comment was removed. Not sure how else to communicate it to you lol.
Hi pal, happy to hear from you again, what’s the site ? You can’t private message on here can you ?
You can’t link other forums. Tell him without linking should work. Or apply some creativity to communicate it.
I see a lot of talk about labs, but not any talk about blood as a physical material. In other words, how’s the BLOOD SUPPLY to your penis?
In one study of anabolic steroid users, a quarter of them had detectable arterial blockage.
Try cialis or viagra. If these drugs work for you, the issue is blood supply and the solution is to consider getting off AAS for good, and possibly considering an extremely low fat diet for quite a while to rescue your vascular health.
Blood supply isn’t the issue here bro
Total loss of libido, that’s not a bloodflow isue
yea my bloods are all normal, i think my issue is of dutasteride and not testosterone that swapped with decca or something. I have a hard flaccid penis for past 10 months, shockwave therapy has helped with penile pain and hardness
Dude, I don’t know the date of this topic, but I’ve read all your topics and suffer about tren d*ck and read all the comments.
I don’t know if u still have that problem.
I had the same problem started 6 months ago and after a really detailed research and spending time experimenting my self, I found the solution and I’m 90 to 100% cured, I wanna tell you my story hoping it helps.
Please if u still have the problem, let me know
Hey man please share your story, could also help people with pfs, etc.
Yes please share the story! Still causing me issues and I’d be very grateful for any and all advice
Thank you Napster, would I not have expected my DHT to have returned some what naturally after stopping Tren if my test levels returned ?
I am not convinced on this. Everything I’ve read on this is that the 5 AR enzyme does not act on Tren. It does act on Nandrolone, but not Tren.
So this doesn’t add up if you were using Test and Tren.
Try to find a reputable source that says Tren converts to DHN.
A steroid can be derived off of a base hormone (Test, DHT or Nandrolone for AAS steroids), and behave quite differently than the base. Assuming that they have the same characteristics is a mistake.
Your hypothesis on DHN blocking out DHT and causing low libido doesn’t make sense, since Tren doesn’t convert to DHN.
Your libido went up because you took exogenous androgenic hormones (Proviron). That is what you should expect.
Was that while on Clomid? While on HCG?
With either of those, your estrogen levels may have been too high for a good libido (or too high given the level of androgens). Some of this is individual, but it seems some men have libido or ED issues if their ratios of androgens to estrogens are not right for them. Some just can’t seem to handle high estrogen even with high androgens.
By adding in more androgens (especially one that can’t convert to estrogen), you are changing the ratio of androgen to estrogen. That may have helped your libido.
Some men instead of addressing the ratio of androgens to estrogens by adding in more androgens seem to have had success by reducing estrogen with an AI. You can read all sorts of anecdotes online about libido going up after a small dose of AI is taken.
My estrogen was normal at the 1st 2 tests and I calculated estrogen/testosterone ratio and it was normal.
Anyways, I’m gonna remove my comments, I just wanted to help.
It is fine to keep them up. It is good for others to see discussion. It may give others a tangent to research.
I am no expert, but IIRC, clomid can cause increased estrogen in the brain that wouldn’t be seen on a blood test. Just something to consider.
Also, just to be clear. I am not convinced on my position. Just putting it out there as a plausible explanation.
I think it’s plausible that Tren and or Deca have impacts on the brain perhaps related to dopamine that could mess up libido for some. We see so many guys with sky high libido while using these drugs, so we have some reasonable evidence that they do impact the areas of the brain related to libido. We’ve also seen plenty of guys that claim libido / ED issues after using Tren or Deca that have hormones in check. Leads me to think that at least sometimes it isn’t a hormone issue (or at least not a sex hormone issue, perhaps something dopamine or serotonin).
The good news is that given time, most seem to recover. It may be longer than ideal, but most do eventually recover.
Agree 100% that this is the cause.