I can't help much man, but I'm on my second cycle.. 6 weeks in, and just added tren e at 150mg 2x per wk.. I'm gonna go for 6 wk like this. I know it depends on what type of tren you have bro. If you have ace, then it's ed or eod, I think 50mg per pin. With the enthenate, what I have, it's longer lasting and it's 2x wk, 300 mgs total (for me anyways).. I definitely will be pct, as I want to return my levels to natural after this cycle. Tren is powerful, and it's not the same as test, that's for sure. Hope you get it straight brother. Keep us updated! BTW, I can already tell the tren has tightened me up in the first week. This stuff is a whole other animal! Google it, research it, get something nailed down, and go with how you feel, as long as others have done it.